Done.  Thanks for the tip!

Sarah


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> this because I have an incredibly sensitive scalp
> (actually my skin in
> general) that hates all commercial cosmetics,

Ooh, me too!  Honestly, I maybe use actual shampoo on
my head about once a month.  The rest of the time I
rinse it occasionally and wear it in a french braid or
a large bun on the back of my head.  My hair is thick
and past my waist.  I never have dandruff or look as
if I haven't washed my hair.  If it gets wet it takes
almost an entire day to dry.  I can imagine that would
be a health hazard in a drafty castle.  I've read
articles on the internet from other people who don't
use shampoo and they claim that your scalp produces
less oil as a result of not shampooing...

Viscountess Deirdre D'Argenteuil, OL
Barony of Atenveldt
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Found this on the Tate Gallery site, it's a recent acquisition for the
Tate (2001). This may be one everyone's seen before, but I hadn't, so
thought I would share. I found the cut of her clothes to be very
interesting.
http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=27365&searchid=12940
Cheers,
Margaret Hepburn

Does anyone know of a source to purchase boar bristles?
Thanks,
Margaret Hepburn

Greetings All,

I am in the planning stages to make a pair of hinged
pattens to protect my turnshoes...any ideas on the
kind of wood I should use?

Many Thanks,
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, liz bradford wrote:

> I am in the planning stages to make a pair of hinged pattens
> to protect my turnshoes...any ideas on the kind of wood I
> should use?

_Shoes and Pattens_ lists alder or willow/poplar as most common,
although they did cite one example made of beech, and there is a
written note about aspen that is not suitable for use for
archery.

Basically, light-weight hardwood...

Lyle

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Julie Stackable, SCA Margaret Hepburn wrote:

> Found this on the Tate Gallery site, it's a recent acquisition for the
> Tate (2001). This may be one everyone's seen before, but I hadn't, so
> thought I would share. I found the cut of her clothes to be very
> interesting.
> http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=27365&searchid=12940
> <http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=27365&searchid=12940>
> Cheers,
> Margaret Hepburn
>
Now that's just a great find, Margaret! The article mentions that other
portraits of pregnant women have been found. I'd love to see those.

Margaret Northwode

--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Julie Stackable, SCA Margaret
Hepburn" <malvoisine@y...> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a source to purchase boar bristles?
> Thanks,
> Margaret Hepburn

Not off hand.

Some sources were mentioned a while back on the medievalshoemaking
yahoogroup, and it comes up every so often on the HCC forum.

Marc/Diarmaid
(when I run out I'm screwed).

I can think of two English ones that I have in books, I will see if I
can find them online & give you some links. Glad you liked it...
Margaret
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather M
<margaretnorthwode@f...> wrote:
> Now that's just a great find, Margaret! The article mentions that
other
> portraits of pregnant women have been found. I'd love to see those.
>
> Margaret Northwode

Quoting "Julie Stackable, SCA Margaret Hepburn" <malvoisine@...>:

> I can think of two English ones that I have in books, I will see if I
> can find them online & give you some links. Glad you liked it...
> Margaret
> --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Heather M
> <margaretnorthwode@f...> wrote:
>> Now that's just a great find, Margaret! The article mentions that
> other
>> portraits of pregnant women have been found. I'd love to see those.
>>
>> Margaret Northwode
>

Ladies Margaret, :-)

I have 2 -- the first I snarfed off the web *somewhere* and can't find
the original, or I'd point you there
http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/bronzinoFollower_EleanorToledo.j\
pg

appears to be a pregnant Eleanor of Toledo.  The second image is here
http://www.kingstudio.it/pagine%20Abiti%20ricostriti/regina-abito.htm

I have a larger copy, but I can't put my hands on it right now.

I can't wait to see the others!

Jerusha
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

There's another one by Gheeraerts on this page -- the lady in white, and
a later (ca. 1620) lady in red.

<http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ArtistWorks?cgroupid=999999961&artistid=206&page\
=1>

Jerusha
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

They have them at my Chicago area shoe repair wholesaler.  When I asked,
they weren't sure but they looked and they did have them.  They said only
the old timers ask for them and they aren't around much any more :(.  I'll
check on quantity and price.

Jon

>-- Original Message --
>To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Marc Carlson" <marccarlson20@...>
>Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:08:18 -0000
>Subject: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Boar bristles
>Reply-To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Julie Stackable, SCA Margaret
>Hepburn" <malvoisine@y...> wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a source to purchase boar bristles?
>> Thanks,
>> Margaret Hepburn
>
>Not off hand.
>
>Some sources were mentioned a while back on the medievalshoemaking
>yahoogroup, and it comes up every so often on the HCC forum.
>
>Marc/Diarmaid
>(when I run out I'm screwed).
>
>
>
>

>
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>

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Jonathan L Murphy wrote:

> They have them at my Chicago area shoe repair wholesaler.
> When I asked, they weren't sure but they looked and they did
> have them.  They said only the old timers ask for them and
> they aren't around much any more :(.  I'll check on quantity
> and price.

I'd be interested in that information as well -- I can use them
for bookbinding.

And find out who the supplier is... ;-)

Lyle

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Lyle H. Gray wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Jonathan L Murphy wrote:
>
> > They have them at my Chicago area shoe repair wholesaler.
> > When I asked, they weren't sure but they looked and they did
> > have them.  They said only the old timers ask for them and
> > they aren't around much any more :(.  I'll check on quantity
> > and price.
>
> I'd be interested in that information as well -- I can use them
> for bookbinding.
>
> And find out who the supplier is... ;-)

Of course, since you mentioned that it's a _wholesaler_, they
probably are...

Lyle

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I'll get the info but they told me when they're gone, they're gone.  Depending
on price and quantity, I'll see if I can clean them out and offer them to
like minded folks here and such.

Jon

>-- Original Message --
>To: <Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com>
>From: "Lyle H. Gray" <gray@...>
>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:34:26 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: RE: [Authentic_SCA] Re: Boar bristles
>Reply-To: Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Jonathan L Murphy wrote:
>
>> They have them at my Chicago area shoe repair wholesaler.
>> When I asked, they weren't sure but they looked and they did
>> have them.  They said only the old timers ask for them and
>> they aren't around much any more :(.  I'll check on quantity
>> and price.
>
>I'd be interested in that information as well -- I can use them
>for bookbinding.
>
>And find out who the supplier is... ;-)
>
>Lyle
>
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> --
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>
>
>

>
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Ladies and gentlemen, if you can, please check your photo albums and
see if there's anything you'd be willing to delete, as we are reaching
our storage limits.

That having been said, I'd like to share some Japanese inspired
projects that I've been working on
http://www.geocities.com/gurdymonkey/blank_slate.htm shows a home
decorating solution to my new weird attic loft space.

http://www.geocities.com/gurdymonkey/orng.jpg is Neopaque white fabric
paint stencilled on orange dupioni. The silk told me it wanted to be
court class "boy clothes," so I'm making a hitatare out of it.

http://www.kariginu.jp/sozai/sozai1-1.htm shows some fabric swatches
from a Japanese company that sells reproductions of medieval Japanese
textiles and costumes for festivals.

http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/ is the home of the Kyoto Costume Museum.
Their online textile gallery is equally droolworthy.

And it seems Makiwara finally has a proper name.

Saionji no Hanae (who is also Jehanne de Wodeford),
Province of the Mists, West Kingdom

Gilliand here, sitting here reading Choice magazine (the primary
source of book, etc., reviews for academic libraries) and seeing this -
- thought some here might be interested:

"Pious and rebellious: Jewish women in Medieval Europe" by Avraham
Grossman, translated by Jonathan Chipman. ISBN: 1584653914, $65;
paperback ISBN: 1584653922, $29.95.

This is "Highly recommended. All academic levels/libraries"

YIS -- Gillian Durham

I have recently been messing about with Renaissance cross stitch again. I'm
especially interested in the pieces by Mary Queen of Scots (animals, etc.),
but I have only been able to find blurry black-and-white photographs in a
book on Scottish embroidery. I can't even tell if they're done in long-arm
(I would guess this is the case) or short-arm cross stitch, and the book
does not specify. Does anyone know where I could find color (preferably
large) photographs and whether the pieces are long- or short-arm cross
stitch?

-Qara Qulan


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Most appear to be done in short arm cross stitch, but some of them
are a combo of stitches. The Needlework of Mary Queen of Scots by
Margaret Swain has color pictures. Some of the more recent
biographies of Mary usually have at least one of them. You might
also try writing Oxborough Hall, where many of them are currently on
display. They have a brief souvenir book about the hangings with
many color photos that you can probably still purchase through them.
I'll see if I can find any on line for you.
Cheers,
Margaret Hepburn
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Qara Qulan <qaraqulan@g...>
wrote:
>
> I have recently been messing about with Renaissance cross stitch
again. I'm
> especially interested in the pieces by Mary Queen of Scots
(animals, etc.),
> but I have only been able to find blurry black-and-white
photographs in a
> book on Scottish embroidery. I can't even tell if they're done in
long-arm
> (I would guess this is the case) or short-arm cross stitch, and
the book
> does not specify. Does anyone know where I could find color
(preferably
> large) photographs and whether the pieces are long- or short-arm
cross
> stitch?
>
> -Qara Qulan
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sorry, I spelled that wrong, it's Oxburgh Hall, in Norfolk. They are
a National Trust property, here's the website,
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-
oxburghhall/
oxburgh hall
  it should have contact info.

The V&A access to images site has 17 of the embroideries. go to the
site at http://images.vam.ac.uk/ixbin/hixclient.exe?
_IXSESSION_=&submit-button=search&search-form=main/index.html
and enter 'Mary Queen of Scots' and it will pull them up.
Good luck!
Margaret Hepburn
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, Qara Qulan <qaraqulan@g...>
wrote:
>
> I have recently been messing about with Renaissance cross stitch
again. I'm
> especially interested in the pieces by Mary Queen of Scots
(animals, etc.),
> but I have only been able to find blurry black-and-white
photographs in a
> book on Scottish embroidery. I can't even tell if they're done in
long-arm
> (I would guess this is the case) or short-arm cross stitch, and
the book
> does not specify. Does anyone know where I could find color
(preferably
> large) photographs and whether the pieces are long- or short-arm
cross
> stitch?
>
> -Qara Qulan
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Quoting Qara Qulan <qaraqulan@...>:

> I have recently been messing about with Renaissance cross stitch again. I'm
> especially interested in the pieces by Mary Queen of Scots (animals, etc.),
> but I have only been able to find blurry black-and-white photographs in a
> book on Scottish embroidery. I can't even tell if they're done in long-arm
> (I would guess this is the case) or short-arm cross stitch, and the book
> does not specify. Does anyone know where I could find color (preferably
> large) photographs and whether the pieces are long- or short-arm cross
> stitch?
>
>

NOpe -- even the V&A admits that most of her slips are done in "regular"
cross-stitch.  If you didn't see the email exchange between a lady from
the ask Kingdom and the V&A, I can send it to you -- or post it to the
list.

I have several images scanned at 300 dpi -- are there any that you are
particularly interested in?  They were scanned from the book The
Needlework of MAry Queen of Scots -- and the cross-stitch shows up
rather well at 300 dpi.

Jerusha
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

The original email was posted 23/06/05 by Lady_Lark_Azure (Isabeau) and is
titled Mary Queen of Scots' embroidery re-classified (long post).
And I too can forward it to anyone interrested, if you can't find it in the
archives with this.

Gwenhyfar
>
   (snip)
   NOpe -- even the V&A admits that most of her slips are done in "regular"
   cross-stitch.  If you didn't see the email exchange between a lady from
   the ask Kingdom and the V&A, I can send it to you -- or post it to the
   list.
   (snip)
   Jerusha
   -----
   Susan Farmer
   sfarmer@...
   University of Tennessee
   Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
   http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/


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--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "willo" <willolevin@y...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, kittencat3@a... wrote:
> > Different people have different body chemistries, it seems.
>
> I would add to the idea of different body chemistries also:
> * different hair physics
> * different climates requiring different adaptations
>
> Straight hair has a smooth surface and oil would probably slide
along it more easily.
> (That's why straight hair usually looks shinier than curly hair.
The smooth cuticle reflects
> light more readily.) More of a straight hair also sits closer to
the oil-producing scalp than
> a curly hair would.

It seems folks are posting a lot of hair histories, and I'd like to
add my own simply because reading all these replies has taught me a
few things.

I have extremely thick, curly hair. It's also a rich, vibrant red,
the bright orangey red. The colour is my favourite part about my
hair, otherwise I hate it. The curliness is so drastic that it's
frizzy at times and I almost always have it in a bun.

As a kid it was worse and I washed it every other day. Once I got
older and didn't have parents after me to wash it (I hate getting
wet and as a kid I despised bathing or showing), I started to wash
it less frequently. I now wash it once a week and it's much longer
(as I kid my parents forced me to keep it short because it was so
hard to care for), and I notice it's much healthier looking;
shinier, better curl form, etc.

Anyway, through all this it was obvious I have a scalp that is on
the dry side. By the end of a week of no shampoo, I get sllightly
itchy. The oils are finally starting to disperse and my hair lays
better. I can't go longer than a week without washing it (ick, I
have a good sniffer and even if no one else can I KNOW it's time to
wash).

I straighten my hair about twice a year, and after I relax it it
looks fabulous for about two weeks... and then it starts to revert
to it's former curl (even a relaxing doesn't initially take all the
curl out).

I began to wonder after reading all these replies... they make great
shampoo for dogs and cats, who need the oils in their skin for good
coat. THEY don't get itchy from their natural oils (but then again,
they clean themselves with their tongues.. hehe). I just wish,
knowing what I know now, there was a clean smelling and feeling way
to keep my hair looking better.

Needless to say, I rarely have an issue with clean hair during
camping events.

L. Keterlyn

Got back this evening -- lots of fun.  If you didn't make it, you
missed out on some really good classes.

Marc/Diarmaid

--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "msgilliandurham" <msgilliandurham@y...>
wrote:
>
> Gilliand here, sitting here reading Choice magazine (the primary
> source of book, etc., reviews for academic libraries) and seeing this -
> - thought some here might be interested:
>
> "Pious and rebellious: Jewish women in Medieval Europe" by Avraham
> Grossman,...

I just got my copy yesterday. I was very excited to hear about it. It is exactly
up my alley. :)

In the same order, I also got: "Mothers and Children: Jewish Family Life in
Medieval Europe"
by Elisheva Baumgarten.

"Mothers and Children" is based upon French/German sources primarily, but I
expect it
will still be interesting/informational for my interests. I'm 53 pages into it,
and definitely
finding new facts (with sources well identified.) For example, Jewish women
could use a
Christian midwife (with a Jewish chaperon always on hand), but a Jewish midwife
was not
permitted (by local Jewish rules) to tend to a Christian woman in labor.

That could be relevant for persona development. For me, I'm simply fascinated by
how
women (especially Jewish) went about their daily lives.

--Joya

Portrait of Maria de'Medici, later Queen of France by Scipione Pulzone,
called Il Gaetano

http://www.robertsimon.com/featured.html

Jerusha
-----
Susan Farmer
sfarmer@...
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

>
> Margaret Hepburn wrote:


Most appear to be done in short arm cross stitch, but some of them
> are a combo of stitches.

  Very interesting! Thank you.

The Needlework of Mary Queen of Scots by
> Margaret Swain has color pictures.

  I ordered it from the library. I heard that it's mostly B&W, so I was
hoping there might be a more recent book somewhere.

Some of the more recent
> biographies of Mary usually have at least one of them. You might
> also try writing Oxborough Hall, where many of them are currently on
> display. They have a brief souvenir book about the hangings with
> many color photos that you can probably still purchase through them.

  I'll definitely give that a try, thanks!
  Jerusha wrote:

NOpe -- even the V&A admits that most of her slips are done in "regular"
> cross-stitch. If you didn't see the email exchange between a lady from
> the ask Kingdom and the V&A, I can send it to you -- or post it to the
> list.

  I think I found that, but it was very late, so I must have missed where it
specified short-armed.

I have several images scanned at 300 dpi -- are there any that you are
> particularly interested in? They were scanned from the book The
> Needlework of MAry Queen of Scots -- and the cross-stitch shows up
> rather well at 300 dpi.

  I have the book on order from the library, so I can scan myself, but thanks
(I'm very fond of the delphin).
  I think I must start saving up for a trip to England. So many exciting
museums, so few decent photos available.
  Thanks to all who replied,
Qara Qulan


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I realized that I needed to change my 'vote' on the poll we have for
where people live, since I moved to the now Kingdom of Northshield
from the Middle Kingdom.  I went to do this and discovered that the
poll was quite a bit out of date (having been made before Northshield
and Lochac were made Kingdoms)So.....

I edited the poll a bit and added the Kingdoms of Northshield,
Lochac, and Gleann Abhann (since they were supposed to be a kingdom
already and will be in a month).

Since we've added these new kingdoms and we now have so many new
people on the list, I wanted to draw everyone's attention to this
opportunity. I always like seeing how many people we have from the
various kingdoms here, as I think it helps us gain an understanding
of different points of view and the traditions and ways of other
kingdoms.

Please go to the groups homeplace at yahoogroups, on the left side of
the screen is "Polls", click on that then go to the poll named "where
do you live?", it's the third poll.

Thanks, and I'm looking forward to see how many people live in the
various kingdoms at this time.... right now it only lists one person
and she's from Northshield.  *grin*

Smiles,
Despina de la likes knowing people from all over the Known World

I quite agree with Marc, the symposium was a lot of fun and a great deal of
good information. It was wonderful to see those I managed to see and I'm
sorry if I missed anyone (such as Marc).
  I'm home safe and Kass and Jehanne were safely seen to the airport so they
should be getting home without problems also. Mabbina seems to be stuck in a
snowstorm and is hoping to be home as soon as they clear the roads.
  Smiles,
Despina de la can now play with all the fur in boxes in her basement


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