I programmed a Pro-2067 for my buddy to use, and after 7 months, he
says Chandler isn't coming in anymore.  Before I try determining
what the problem is long distance, I was wondering if Chandler PD
has changed any talkgroups?

Chandler has not made any changes that I have noticed, and I have at
least one radio on them 24/7.

Roy N7QYK/ICP963
www.icp-az.org

-----Original Message-----
From: gemcohauler [mailto:gemcohauler@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:29 AM
To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ArizonaScanner.com] Any Chandler changes?




I programmed a Pro-2067 for my buddy to use, and after 7 months, he
says Chandler isn't coming in anymore.  Before I try determining
what the problem is long distance, I was wondering if Chandler PD
has changed any talkgroups?

I have a question for the group.  Does any one else have a problem
with Glendale PD.  I keep having problem with them going all wacky.
I will receive them fine then all of a sudden I loose them and there
Tx are all garbled.  I do not see any cell towers her by me.  I will
manualy scroll through the channles and I will sometimes get a
control channel.  When I do get one it bounces around so much on the
% on my pro-96.  It will go from 99% to 0% and then back to 45%.  I
am gathering that is why I can not always receive them.  I live in
the area of Dysart and Glendale.  I am going to get the Radio Shack
800 MHz next week so hopefully that will work better some.  I
receive the Phoenix system and MCSO no problem.  I guess Glendale's
system is not as built as them?

Kevin

Hi all,

   I am hearing a funky sounding motorola sounding data signal on
866.8125mhz, one of the future Tucson area P25/Trunk freqs.  It's giving a
reponse for the ID as T0101/SY177/BEE00, using the PRO-96.

   I am also hearing broken digital communications on 866.075mhz, another one
of those future freqs. It sounds like what you would hear if you tried to
listen to a trunked system while staying on one frequency.  It's not
following the communication.

   I'm getting a talk group of 40961 and 40967, but I am sure that it is not
correct since I'm not getting consitent comms on it.  But the parts that I
can hear, definitely sound PD'ish.  They've also made reference to one of
the stations being temporarily out of service for the radio man to remove
his equipment.

   I've hear Violet and Royal asking for a 28 on an amateur radio too,
several times.  Also talk of a victim.

   Anybody else hearing this?

   I was just about to send this, but now me thinks that it is simply a
looped recording that the techies are possibly using to fine tune the
radios??  I'm hearing the exact same comms and verbiage again :)

   John
   SE of Tucson



   I

Ok, this is definitely a new system.

Here's what I can say, System Id is 177, the Tower number is 101.

The control channel is 866.8125.  Associated frequencies ar 866.075 and
866.4375.

Talk Groups have been 40961, 40962, 40966, and 40967.

Base is 851.00625, with a spacing of .00625, TX Offset is -45.0

Anyone, Bueller?

John
SE of Tucson

I have the same problem with the 96.  I don't have any problems at all with
the BC296D.  Your reception should improve when you switch antennas
though.  Glendale's system isn't entirely the same type of system as
Phoenix/Mesa, as it's not believed to be a true simulcast type of system.

Dave,
Glendale
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: khalucha
   To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:15 PM
   Subject: [ArizonaScanner.com] Glendale PD



   I have a question for the group.  Does any one else have a problem
   with Glendale PD.  I keep having problem with them going all wacky.
   I will receive them fine then all of a sudden I loose them and there
   Tx are all garbled.  I do not see any cell towers her by me.  I will
   manualy scroll through the channles and I will sometimes get a
   control channel.  When I do get one it bounces around so much on the
   % on my pro-96.  It will go from 99% to 0% and then back to 45%.  I
   am gathering that is why I can not always receive them.  I live in
   the area of Dysart and Glendale.  I am going to get the Radio Shack
   800 MHz next week so hopefully that will work better some.  I
   receive the Phoenix system and MCSO no problem.  I guess Glendale's
   system is not as built as them?

   Kevin





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Ok, well, I guess this is the Town of Marana, callsign WQBG810.  An
additional freq registered with the FCC that is not active is 866.7876mhz.

Bummer, not TPD.....but a new system that has been active since 10/4/04...

John
SE of Tucson

In a message dated 11/3/2004 6:01:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
flano@... writes:

Ok,  well, I guess this is the Town of Marana, callsign WQBG810.   An
additional freq registered with the FCC that is not active is  866.7876mhz.

Bummer, not TPD.....but a new system that has been active  since 10/4/04...

John
SE of Tucson


it would make sense thou.....lots of stuff goes on down there...big nat
guard base for apaches, a federal "law enforcement" training center, evergreen
aviation


spookie

kevin


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to flano i am hearing the samething as to what you post yesterday. i
am geting the same ID TO101/SY177/BEEOO, i am  also using a PRO-96
to get the data. by the flano check out the RadioReference.com
there is a Reference to this today.

to dan and the group do anyone know who is using 167.9750 i am
hearing is Phoenix Dispatch and commo shop testing Freq and testing
two Repeaters on the same Freq. this is a Digital Frequency so you
will need a Digital scanner to hear the Radio testing. i hear them
between 2:00pm and 5:00pm testing the Radio Frequency.  thanks for
any help.

Hi Tyrone,

   Yeah, that was my posting.  I've been adding some updates to the
different trunk systems to RadioReference.com within Pima County.
I've been downloading a lot of the systems information, so I thought
I'd contribute :)

   John
   SE of Tucson


--- In ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com, "cook_master2001"
<cook_master2001@y...> wrote:
>
> to flano i am hearing the samething as to what you post yesterday.
i
> am geting the same ID TO101/SY177/BEEOO, i am  also using a PRO-96
> to get the data. by the flano check out the RadioReference.com
> there is a Reference to this today.

Tyrone,

   I've heard these two frequencies active for a while too - very
clearly from the Tucson area.  They appear to be related to "Meade
Security".  Every so often you'll hear a helo make a 7-minute trip up
in the Phoenix area and references to problems in Laughlin and other
Nevada cities.  Still haven't figured out who this is.  They clearly
give their callsign, and I did a search on the FCC site, but no joy.
And before you ask, I wrote down the callsign, but I've misplaced
it :<

   John
   SE of Tucson

--- In ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com, "cook_master2001"
<cook_master2001@y...> wrote:
>
> to dan and the group do anyone know who is using 167.9750 i am
> hearing is Phoenix Dispatch and commo shop testing Freq and testing
> two Repeaters on the same Freq. this is a Digital Frequency so you
> will need a Digital scanner to hear the Radio testing. i hear them
> between 2:00pm and 5:00pm testing the Radio Frequency.  thanks for
> any help.

John and Tyrone,

167.975 was once part of a FEMA emergency network. In Nevada in particular
it's been accused of being used by EG&G, which is a contractor responsible
for some aspects of security (among other roles) at the Nevada Test Site
(which I believe is one of the major components of the Area 51 package). Who
knows what this could be in Arizona.

But (aside from Lake Mead) once I saw some references to NTS and EG&G with
this frequency, the Mead name changed meanings to me: "Lake Mead Base" is
the old name for what I think is now called Nellis Air Force Base Area II,
which is connected to Area 51. With that, your guess remains as good as
mine. I still don't know why it would need to be heard in Tucson...

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: flanousa [mailto:flano@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:58 PM
> To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ArizonaScanner.com] Re: unknown Frequency user 167.9750 or
> 167.8250
>
>
>
> Tyrone,
>
>   I've heard these two frequencies active for a while too - very
> clearly from the Tucson area.  They appear to be related to "Meade
> Security".  Every so often you'll hear a helo make a 7-minute trip up
> in the Phoenix area and references to problems in Laughlin and other
> Nevada cities.  Still haven't figured out who this is.  They clearly
> give their callsign, and I did a search on the FCC site, but no joy.
> And before you ask, I wrote down the callsign, but I've misplaced
> it :<
>
>   John
>   SE of Tucson
>
> --- In ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com, "cook_master2001"
> <cook_master2001@y...> wrote:
> >
> > to dan and the group do anyone know who is using 167.9750 i am
> > hearing is Phoenix Dispatch and commo shop testing Freq and testing
> > two Repeaters on the same Freq. this is a Digital Frequency so you
> > will need a Digital scanner to hear the Radio testing. i hear them
> > between 2:00pm and 5:00pm testing the Radio Frequency.  thanks for
> > any help.

Thanks Dan,

   I did carry 167.975 as FEMA, but it never sounded like I expected.
It's been more of the other roles, i.e. fixing things and security
that I've heard....oh well, it's punched in the radio, so maybe some
day we'll get an ID....

   John
   SE of Tucson

ya thanks dan and john for the info on 167.9750 i will
keep monitoring this Frequecy, hope we can figure why
we are able to hear this Frequecy in Tucson  thanks
once again to all.
--- flanousa <flano@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks Dan,
>
>   I did carry 167.975 as FEMA, but it never sounded
> like I expected.
> It's been more of the other roles, i.e. fixing
> things and security
> that I've heard....oh well, it's punched in the
> radio, so maybe some
> day we'll get an ID....
>
>   John
>   SE of Tucson
>
>
>
>




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I ran across a msg in this group back in March that I believe is
related as I have heard the same type of traffic on these freq up here
in Sedona. I've heard daily radio checks, "Mead security", radio
checks and flight following. One of the below channels I believe is on
Mingus Mtn in addition to the sites mentioned. I've monitored these
freq's on a recent trip up to Utah and heard traffic on them up into
southern Utah just not enough to identify them. Here's a link to the
wapa web site, http://www.wapa.gov/ which is a possiblity.


Msg 6932
From:  Chuck Kimball <n0nhj@a...>
Date:  Thu Mar 18, 2004  8:46 am
Subject:  Northern AZ WAPA or BurRec


While headed home yesterday picked up what I think was WAPA (could have
been Bureau of Reclamation)

164.275 I think on Mt. Elden
167.875 Poss on Navajo
and 167.925 poss on Roof Butte.

All of these were APCO P25 modulation in the clear. Only traffic was
flight following of a BurRec
Aircraft from Boulder City to Page, to Loveland, CO.


Chuck

can anyone confirm this aircraft, about three or four nights out of
the week here in Tucson, i see a small cessna airplane circling in
midtown, between country club to east and 1st ave to the west, and
6st to south and glenn st to the north. when i monitor the airband i
hear [Ross 282] can someone confirm this is an F.B.I. Aircraft. by
way chcek out Google and type in F.B.I. Aircraft, and i thank i
found what i was looking for. thanks.   tyrone  Tucson.

Great catch!  I don't know how I missed that one.  It sounds like
what I'm hearing.  I'll give those others a try too.  It sure does
look a good candidate for ID.  I went back into my database and I
first heard this on June 10, 2003, although I didn't have the
capability to listen to digital at the time:<

I seem to recall a conversation related to electric power recently.

  John
  SE of Tucson

Dan,



Should I be able to get the Sky harbor frequencies out here in Elmirage? I
do not seem to hear anything on EDACS.



Mike



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From: Dan Rollman [mailto:lists@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:28 PM
To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ArizonaScanner.com] Re: unknown Frequency user 167.9750 or
167.8250



John and Tyrone,

167.975 was once part of a FEMA emergency network. In Nevada in particular
it's been accused of being used by EG&G, which is a contractor responsible
for some aspects of security (among other roles) at the Nevada Test Site
(which I believe is one of the major components of the Area 51 package). Who
knows what this could be in Arizona.

But (aside from Lake Mead) once I saw some references to NTS and EG&G with
this frequency, the Mead name changed meanings to me: "Lake Mead Base" is
the old name for what I think is now called Nellis Air Force Base Area II,
which is connected to Area 51. With that, your guess remains as good as
mine. I still don't know why it would need to be heard in Tucson...

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: flanousa [mailto:flano@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:58 PM
> To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ArizonaScanner.com] Re: unknown Frequency user 167.9750 or
> 167.8250
>
>
>
> Tyrone,
>
>   I've heard these two frequencies active for a while too - very
> clearly from the Tucson area.  They appear to be related to "Meade
> Security".  Every so often you'll hear a helo make a 7-minute trip up
> in the Phoenix area and references to problems in Laughlin and other
> Nevada cities.  Still haven't figured out who this is.  They clearly
> give their callsign, and I did a search on the FCC site, but no joy.
> And before you ask, I wrote down the callsign, but I've misplaced
> it :<
>
>   John
>   SE of Tucson
>
> --- In ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com, "cook_master2001"
> <cook_master2001@y...> wrote:
> >
> > to dan and the group do anyone know who is using 167.9750 i am
> > hearing is Phoenix Dispatch and commo shop testing Freq and testing
> > two Repeaters on the same Freq. this is a Digital Frequency so you
> > will need a Digital scanner to hear the Radio testing. i hear them
> > between 2:00pm and 5:00pm testing the Radio Frequency.  thanks for
> > any help.




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i found a new Frequency today it sounds like Maintenance workers for
the Arizona Air National Guard @T.I.A. 409.4500 check it out if live
in Tucson, and it's analog  from Tyrone

cook_master2001 wrote:
>
> can anyone confirm this aircraft, about three or four nights out of
> the week here in Tucson, i see a small cessna airplane circling in
> midtown, between country club to east and 1st ave to the west, and
> 6st to south and glenn st to the north. when i monitor the airband i
> hear [Ross 282] can someone confirm this is an F.B.I. Aircraft. by
> way chcek out Google and type in F.B.I. Aircraft, and i thank i
> found what i was looking for. thanks.   tyrone  Tucson.

They used them way before 9/11 for surveillance activities. Some areas
have a dedicated VHF channel for air to ground comms.

Gary

In a message dated 11/5/2004 5:56:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
garys2@... writes:

> can  anyone confirm this aircraft, about three or four nights out of
> the  week here in Tucson, i see a small cessna airplane circling in
>  midtown, between country club to east and 1st ave to the west, and
> 6st to south and glenn st to the north. when i monitor the airband i
> hear [Ross 282] can someone confirm this is an F.B.I.  Aircraft


hey...thats my house...:-)


kevin


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Can confirm it's an FBI Aircraft if you can get the tail N number . run that
through the FAA site and it'll tell you who own's it and where it's based at .
most N number's are under the wing . if you can get a close enough eye on it . i
would start searching the VHF lo and hi air band's for this airplane . it might
be using a uncontroled airport freq .

Gary Saffer <garys2@...> wrote:cook_master2001 wrote:
>
> can anyone confirm this aircraft, about three or four nights out of
> the week here in Tucson, i see a small cessna airplane circling in
> midtown, between country club to east and 1st ave to the west, and
> 6st to south and glenn st to the north. when i monitor the airband i
> hear [Ross 282] can someone confirm this is an F.B.I. Aircraft. by
> way chcek out Google and type in F.B.I. Aircraft, and i thank i
> found what i was looking for. thanks.   tyrone  Tucson.

They used them way before 9/11 for surveillance activities. Some areas
have a dedicated VHF channel for air to ground comms.

Gary



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not under the wing all the time.. vary few are that way.
try the tail.

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:05 PM
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>
> Can confirm it's an FBI Aircraft if you can get the tail N number . run
that through the FAA site and it'll tell you who own's it and where it's
based at . most N number's are under the wing . if you can get a close
enough eye on it . i would start searching the VHF lo and hi air band's for
this airplane . it might be using a uncontroled airport freq .
>
> Gary Saffer <garys2@...> wrote:cook_master2001 wrote:
> >
> > can anyone confirm this aircraft, about three or four nights out of
> > the week here in Tucson, i see a small cessna airplane circling in
> > midtown, between country club to east and 1st ave to the west, and
> > 6st to south and glenn st to the north. when i monitor the airband i
> > hear [Ross 282] can someone confirm this is an F.B.I. Aircraft. by
> > way chcek out Google and type in F.B.I. Aircraft, and i thank i
> > found what i was looking for. thanks.   tyrone  Tucson.
>
> They used them way before 9/11 for surveillance activities. Some areas
> have a dedicated VHF channel for air to ground comms.
>
> Gary
>
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Tyrone,

   That should be one of the AMARC frequencies on DMAFB - PL of 94.8.

   John
   SE of Tucson

--- In ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com, "cook_master2001"
<cook_master2001@y...> wrote:
>
> i found a new Frequency today it sounds like Maintenance workers
for
> the Arizona Air National Guard @T.I.A. 409.4500 check it out if
live
> in Tucson, and it's analog  from Tyrone

http://motorsports.thepaddock.com/freqs/wc_freqs.html

FREQ'S FROM PIR RACE 11/07/2004

464.600    DPL 244

451.225    DPL 205    SAFTEY

462.0625    DPL 654

found freq's from racefreq.com

Drivers that I could capture the dpl

CAR#    FREQ          DPL    NAME

2        451.825        032     RUSTY WALLACE
8        464.875        743     DALE EARNHARDT JR
9        451.850        465     KASEY KHANE
15      464.950        134     MICHAEL WALTRIP
16      468.450        723     GREG BIFFLE
19      456.850        411     JEREMY MAYFIELD
30      469.2375      631     JEFF BURTON
41      458.000        631     CASEY MEARS
45      461.225        043     KYLE PETTY
49      461.4125      371     KEY SCHRADER
88      468.525       311     DALE JARRETT

Today, 866.4375mhz is the control channel.  The data channel is showing
866.8125mhz as an alternate control channel now.  Still only seeing one of
the other associated freqs, 866.075mhz, active with voice.

This system is still testing, although audio is getting better and more
consistent.

Test Talkgroups are 40961, 40962, 40965, 40966, and 40967

I am using Pro96Com to break out the Control Channel Information Display.
This is a wonderful program, if you haven't used it, it helps with the
associated frequencies, activities (voice, control channels, ID, etc),
radios active, towers and other neat info.

Get it here:  http://www.mvpcollaborative.com/p96/

John
SE of Tucson

i found a frequency of 161.3850 kff676 it's a digital data control
freq. for union Pacific RailRoad.   tyrone  Tucson.

Hi Tyrone,

   That is a proprietary data signal you are hearing for the UP. It's used
for the track signals and controls.

   They've got a few freqs in our area that they transmit the signal on.  You
won't hear voice on them, or at least I haven't for the past few years :)

   John
   SE of Tucson

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:43 AM
To: ArizonaScanner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ArizonaScanner.com] Digest Number 1469
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 22:43:11 -0000
    From: "cook_master2001" <cook_master2001@...>
Subject: is union Pacific going Digital ?


i found a frequency of 161.3850 kff676 it's a digital data control
freq. for union Pacific RailRoad.   tyrone  Tucson.