Hello everyone, I have a recipes test tomorrow and I thought I would look for some impute on what I am doing. Later this month I am cooking a dinner for 15...
They are fowl dormice, not vegan, by Jove! ... impute ... 30 ... stuffed ... with pine ... The ... large ... (more like an 8 ... to ... issue ... cook ... week...
It is my understanding that European dormice (a different critter than the English dormouse) is very fatty ... at least the tails are quite fatty. Anyway, with...
Greetings, What I usually do with Moretum is a "cheater version" for large demos and Renn Faires where my kitchen is set up. Instead of using Monchego cheese...
Last week I went to a five day long SCA event. I camped with a group of cooks and we cooked over fire the whole time. I made a few dishes from Apicius ... ...
good to know the dishes worked Can i just point out - as i am a bit of a stickler for such things - that the recipes in Apicius use the word liquamen rather...
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Jul 14, 2012 1:05 pm
I am sorry, but are you really sure that there is any evidence for a difference between garum and the Apician “liquamen”? “liquamen” is a word used...
happy to get to grips with this again as I do think there is sufficient evidence but you have caught me on the way out the door.. I will respond on sunday ...
OK garum liquamen and the differences: i recently presented a paper at the British School at Rome to archaeologist of the fish trade in the Med. and...
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Jul 15, 2012 6:37 pm
Well, we don’t know exactly when the Apicius collection has been compiled but it is quite sure that has been compiled from a base of earlier recipes from...
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Jul 15, 2012 9:24 pm
Just a little correction and an addition: The Geoponika have been written down about 600 years after the Price Edict (not 800!). The word “garum” is found...
No problem ... actually what I used was an anchovie extract sauce that I bought. It was quite tasty, and if I'm reading your other post correctly, is closer to...
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Jul 16, 2012 5:12 pm
I prefer the Colatura di Alici which is quite salty (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colatura_di_alici_di_Cetara). The Colatura is still made in many households...
Hi Your approach to fish sauce is too simplistic I am afraid. Do you not even recognise the fact of a separate blood and viscera sauce different from the...
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Jul 16, 2012 11:15 pm
Hi Sally, the fact that a lot of differt types of “garum” existed is obviously true but it is not my idea. This has already been reported by Pliny in the...
Your ref to Pliny is as follows in English for the rest ' then allec became a luxury and its various kinds have come to be inumerable' These refer to...
Colatura di Alici di Cetara is what I used. I couldn't remember the name when I was typing my earlier post ... I just remembered it said anchovie extract on...
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Jul 18, 2012 11:18 pm
Sorry for the late answer. I wasn’t at home yesterday and therefore not able to sit down and reply immediately. Meanwhile I had a look at some editions of...
Hi 'So why shouldn’t Pliny be right? I am sure that there were not only the two forms of “garum” that you mentioned but a lot of other varieties' The...
... I have been summoned. I just hope you're pronouncing "Justine" as three syllables! ;) Sorry, I haven't had time to follow this debate in any detail: I'm...
Hi justine and all this is getting wonderfully complicated but as i have always wanted to get to grips with what Pliny says here i do think we might continue...
Salve Iustino, I have a nice small crop of white goosefoot (lambs' quarters) in my garden. You are welcome to it if it can help you with a second preparation...
A quick reply while my conditum melancholicis cools down. Sally, not to impugn my own impartiality in this discussion, but generally if you say something about...
Iustinus Demetriae salutem plurimam dicit, Wow, thank you! I see that Pliny mentions atriplex a few times, and apparently it shows up in Hippocrates as well....
This is a great discussion which I am enjoying greatly, but can the posts please be clipped? I read via digest, so if you just hit reply and leave all previous...
I don't mind so long as everyone starts trimming their posts to just their own reply and the pertinent lines of the previous post. The discussion is...
However, this does leave me looking again at his paragraph on the topic, a bit confused. It seems like the first sentence is definitely about allex (since, you...
