SALVETE OMNES A dear friend and colleague (american but living in Germany for 30 years or so) has come for a visit, bearing cyber-gifts. He's been poking...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 4, 2009 12:23 am
That is incredible! Of course, given the era and provenance, I suppose this is actually a myttotos, the alleged Greek equivalent (but see below).? As it...
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Andrea Willett
andrealwillett
Sep 7, 2009 6:38 am
Hello All! I'm new to this list and this is my first post. I was wondering if somebody could clarify something for me about 'cucumbers' as they're mentioned in...
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James Matterer
jlmatterer
Sep 11, 2009 1:14 am
Salve! Could someone please recommend a good cheese for making Libum from Cato, De Agricultura: Libum hoc modo facito. Casei P. II bene disterat in mortario....
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Aurelia Rufinia
aureliarufinia
Sep 11, 2009 2:38 am
I've used romano, and never had time to actually get things out of the cooking pan before people snapped them all up. I like the hard cheese because of the...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 11, 2009 3:05 am
I love this recipe. I usually use sheep ricotta, which I can find in a specialty store in my area (North East) Lucia _____ From: Apicius@yahoogroups.com...
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coivinix
Sep 11, 2009 12:56 pm
... Hello Jim, I'll strongly second Lucia's recommendation of Pecorino Romano. I have made LIBVM with both All-purpose flour ("the finest flour"--don't forget...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 11, 2009 1:19 pm
I do use sheep Ricotta, not pecorino. The result is a soft little bread. Disterat in mortario can mean "work over" or soften, in a mortar. A guess a semisoft...
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coivinix
Sep 12, 2009 7:36 am
... Cara Lucia, Sorry...I was writing from memory; it was Aurelia Rufinia who uses Pecorino, not you, of course. If our lives ever settle down again and we can...
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Martha Fletcher
martelvoncha...
Sep 12, 2009 12:10 pm
This may be obvious somewhere but is the bay leaf consumed with the bread or peeled off before you eat it? Martelle...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 12, 2009 1:29 pm
Nah. It is tough and leathery. In the cooking process it infuses a nice flavor to the Libum Lucia _____ From: Apicius@yahoogroups.com...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 12, 2009 1:31 pm
Same here, same here _____ From: Apicius@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Apicius@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of coivinix Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:35 AM To:...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 12, 2009 6:26 pm
The most fun part of the recipe for Libum is the first sentence: "Manus mortariumque bene lavato." Wash your hands and the bowl well. This always cracks me...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 30, 2009 2:43 am
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iQPJJbma8j1ft1YJbsTGFMJlyY_wD9B1A14O0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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D. M. VARIANvS
varianvs
Sep 30, 2009 5:38 am
What would be a list of foods that would just be wrong for Ancient Rome? -- DECIMvS MERCATIvS VARIANvS a.k.a.: Marsh Wise Associated with: -LEGIO IX HISPANA...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 30, 2009 10:37 am
Tomatoes, potatoes, sugar and rosemary (used in medicine not in the kitchen), probably basil, which occurs in only one recipe by Giacosa who does not give the...
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D. M. VARIANvS
varianvs
Sep 30, 2009 12:20 pm
I was thinking corn and cranberries too. I didn't know about basil and rosemary ... -- DECIMvS MERCATIvS VARIANvS a.k.a.: Marsh Wise Associated with: -LEGIO IX...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 30, 2009 3:25 pm
Of course! Corn! And cranberries. There is a berry called giuggiola that grows wild in Europe, and tastes somewhat like cranberries, but I have not found a...
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Samia al-Kaslaania
idlesamia
Sep 30, 2009 3:31 pm
I believe that _Around the Roman Table_ indicates that rosemary and basil were used as fragrant table setting and switched between courses. Samia...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 30, 2009 4:26 pm
That could be. In a paper I wrote years ago I speculated that as far as Basil, they knew it was good for them, but they did not particularly liked it, pretty...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 30, 2009 4:47 pm
Lucia wrote: probably basil, which occurs in only one recipe by Giacosa who does not give the source, Hmm, I should look into that. Which recipe is this? There...
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lilinah@...
anahita_al_s...
Sep 30, 2009 5:00 pm
... This isn't comprehensive but here are some more... Anything New World: Several have been mentioned. But, wait! There's more! -- All Squashes (gourds are...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 30, 2009 5:04 pm
I need to remember not to use AOL's built-in quoting function, as yahoo strips the coding and makes my posts illegible. Let's try this again: ... does not ... ...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 30, 2009 5:30 pm
I'll check the Giacosa. A far as Ocinum, Celsus does list it in Alimenta as well as medicamenta. Its properties according to Celsus and Pliny are: Digestive,...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 30, 2009 5:35 pm
... The Romance languages distinguish between fava/fève/haba/etc, and faggiolo/haricot/frijol/etc. The Romans had the former, but not the latter... with the...
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lilinah@...
anahita_al_s...
Sep 30, 2009 6:10 pm
... There isn't a "both". What USAmericans call "sweet potatoes" and "yams" are 2 kinds of the same thing, Ipomoea batatas. Yams (real yams) are Old World in...
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lilinah@...
anahita_al_s...
Sep 30, 2009 6:12 pm
... That isn't quite true. The fruit has thick skin and a small amount of pulp. So citron cannot be eaten "out of hand". It can be cooked, however, and i've...
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jdm314@...
jdm314
Sep 30, 2009 6:39 pm
... Oops, you are right, Dioscorea is Old World. However, it is African, and I don't believe it was known to the Romans (Wikipedia seems to agree: "Historical...
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Samia al-Kaslaania
idlesamia
Sep 30, 2009 6:43 pm
I just ordered some Jujube fruits from a US supplier. They are not a thing like cranberries. :) Much more like dates in both flavor and appearance. Samia...
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Lucia Clark
luciaclark
Sep 30, 2009 11:56 pm
Wikipedia describes Zizyphus Mauritania a slightly acidulous and moderately sweet. So the jujube is a little sweeter than cranberries, grows on trees, and is...
