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THE WORLD'S MOST EVIL BELIEFS – IMHO
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

The world's most evil beliefs & the most important issue

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-
called "free will" and luck.

The god that Arminian Christian eternal tormentors profess to love
says to his fallen creatures

"Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this
lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don't have the good
sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am
going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an
inescapable state of eternal torment forever."

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian relies on God
alone, not "free will" at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP:
Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement,
Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic Christian eternal tormentors profess to love
says to his fallen creatures

"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever.
However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to
heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will
be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect.
(A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of
the little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say
that the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is "love."

Without God's sustaining power everyone would cease to exist. So if
anyone were to suffer forever, our all-powerful God (Who is Love in
essence, not just loving) would be fully 100% responsible for it. We
would have to conclude that any definition of the manifestation
of "love-in-essence" includes eternally sustaining people alive in an
inescapable state of suffering.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

What a travesty; what a revolting definition of love it is that God,
Who is love personified, would grant any creature a will so strong
that they can choose themselves into an irreversible state of never
ending suffering (Arminian) or deserve to suffer forever just by
being born into the human race (Calvinist)!!

Thank God the Bible does not teach such insane ideas!
http://www.godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm
http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm

Copy and paste one of the following titles into Google
SAVIOR OF THE WORLD SERIES EBY
Or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY

Anyone is welcome to believe anything they want to about what the
Bible teaches.

I'm just so glad I learned about the following information.
It enabled me to recover from a twelve year nervous breakdown 1966-
78.
I'm 70 now.
I, and many others with whom I have become acquainted, simply could
not successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God would let
anyone suffer forever. Here is the testimony of Charles Slagle who
went insane for the same reasons that I did.
Copy and paste the following title into Google
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST or click on
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-
Christ.html
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm

Eternal Torment Calvinism, Eternal Torment Arminianism, Annihilation,
or Christian Biblical Universalism.

Which one of the four is the truth?

This debate nearly always ends with the words, "My Greek scholars are
more reliable
than your Greek scholars," and the result is a stalemate.

If readers think it glorifies God more to believe that He is going to
let some of His
creatures suffer forever or annihilate them, then they should keep
believing that.
But if they think it glorifies God more to eventually meet everyone
on the level of their
greatest and deepest need, which is a change in their stubborn will,
then I would like
them to know that that is exactly what the Bible teaches that God is
like.

THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE

The findings of Greek scholar Louis Abbott and the other Greek
scholars quoted in
chapters three and twelve of his online book IMHO renders all other
arguments irrelevant.

IMHO these findings effectively close the case on the arguments that
eternal tormentors try so hard to uphold.
But of course one has to actually read them to see what I mean.

Just Google up AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS and enjoy, or click on
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/index.html
The following colored chapter links probably may be activated on this
post.
• About the Author
• Dedication
• Forward
• Chapter1 - Definitions of Aion, Aionios
• Chapter2 - Usages of Aion
• Chapter3 - Opinion of the Scholars
• Chapter4 - Apparent Contradictions
• Chapter5 - "Forever and Ever" - A Poor Translation
• Chapter6 - What Saith The Translations?
• Chapter7 - Eonian Means What? - A Search For Truth
• Chapter8 - Greek Tools
• Chapter9 - Examples in Greek Literature
• Chapter10 - Bibles Without "Everlasting Punishment"
• Chapter11 - Verses "Proving" Punishment Will be Everlasting
• Chapter12 - Scholars Acknowledge Restitution of All
• Chapter13 - Punishment? Yes - Everlasting? No
• Chapter14 - A Long, But Not Eternal Visit To "Hell"
• Chapter15 - The "Chosen," Not "I have chosen"
• Chapter16 - Clearing Things Up
• Chapter17 - The Complete Revelation
• Appendix 1 - Commentary of Previous Presentation
• Appendix 2 - Do You Believe ALL in the Bible?
• Appendix 3 - Reconciliation Scriptures
• Appendix 4 - What Pleases the Father?
• Appendix 5 - What if we are Wrong?
• Christian Biblical Universalism versus Annihilation
• http://www.tentmaker.org/books/EternalDeath.html
• Bible Threatenings Explained
•
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
• Universal Salvation University
• http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm





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