That is extremely interesting Vero... I see the different ethnic groups, etc on the website link but exactly how did you deduce that the Bungu of Tanzania and...
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afrikhantiques
Jul 1, 2010 12:04 pm
Yes I've heard Congo is a true adventure! I've lived in Africa all my life and so I know how the police, border officials, etc work. I'm planning to travel...
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afrikhantiques
Jul 1, 2010 12:06 pm
It is a Baule Mbra monkey figure. I don't think its authentic as Rand has a similar piece and claims his isn't authentic either. Rand has written a lot of...
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bundugola
Jul 1, 2010 1:16 pm
I would like to show you two pieces I am not sure about: they has been collected years ago in Kivu or Maniema area (RDC) and they don't seem fakes (at least...
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Veronique Martelliere
proximatribal
Jul 2, 2010 4:06 am
Hello, Sorry for not having been clear ! i did not mean that Tanzanian Bungu people and Sudanese Bongo people are the same people -Â but meant that a confusion...
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benjamin thywissen
benthywissen
Jul 2, 2010 4:06 am
Hi, Thanks for your answer ! I am not sure that it is a fake, because stylistically it is really well done, the proportions are good, and the patina as well......
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od_gaf
Jul 2, 2010 4:09 am
I have two masks, about 50 years old. I did not find similar masks searching the web. Are they Punu? Yoruba? Bamun? I would appreciate any information about...
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Lee Rubinstein
leerubinstein
Jul 2, 2010 1:23 pm
Oded: The white-faced mask does not bear the pronouncedly female characteristics that are usually observed in Punu masks, but it is possible indeed that such a...
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Lucas San
lucasanart
Jul 2, 2010 1:30 pm
The mask 2 is KUBA ________________________________ From: od_gaf <od_gaf@...> To: African_Arts@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 10:19:30 PM ...
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spric1h
Jul 2, 2010 1:30 pm
Hi Oded One is derived from Punu "maiden" masks, the other is derived from Kuba "Ngady a Mwash" masks. Neither appears to be authentic. Since many "fakes"...
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guywithcat42
Jul 4, 2010 4:27 am
Hi We are in goma, and purchased some masks and statues from some locals. Our guide is the local fixer for the NY Times and is considered extrememly...
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od gaf
od_gaf
Jul 4, 2010 4:32 am
Thank you all for your detailed answers: Lee, Steve Price, Margalit and Lucas San. Oded ... From: Lee Rubinstein <LeeRubinstein@...> Subject: Re:...
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Lee Rubinstein
leerubinstein
Jul 4, 2010 5:13 am
Andrew: It will be extremely difficult and merely conjectural to offer opinions regarding authenticity based solely on photographs -- which you are welcome to...
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rpearsonpe
Jul 5, 2010 3:41 am
Making the 'help' a simple decision. If you like it, can afford it, can carry it back with you or have it shipped, can put it in your own collection, and...
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francisco blanco
franciscobla...
Jul 5, 2010 2:08 pm
If you like the pieces and the price is good I would buy it. I will forget about dealers as Lee suggested, they usually like to have a provenance just to raise...
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Andrew Goldberg
guywithcat42
Jul 5, 2010 2:09 pm
thank you everyone for your extremely helpful and thoughtful supplies. Thanks to all your replies I understand this so much better. We pushed our trip to stay...
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lokaart@...
aimeeloka
Jul 5, 2010 2:09 pm
Whenever I hear of people going to Africa to buy works of art I always think of something that John F. Povey said way back in 1987. "My own valuation is that...
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francisco blanco
franciscobla...
Jul 5, 2010 2:58 pm
In every kind of antiques are fakes. For instance in painting it is quite easy to know the period but autorship can be an issue. Yale just found a painting in...
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Andrew Goldberg
guywithcat42
Jul 5, 2010 8:14 pm
Thanks so much. please forgive the odd typos in the previous email. Anyway, here are two objects. A Songye statue (about 34 inches tall), and a mask from which...
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M.E.F.
mfliegelmann
Jul 5, 2010 9:30 pm
It is a mask inspired by the Lega. M ________________________________ From: Andrew Goldberg <guywithcat42@...> To: African_Arts@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
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Marc Hallet
hlltmrc
Jul 5, 2010 9:31 pm
Hello, In response to Janou Lightning's June 30 email about African art from our father Jean-Pierre Hallet's estate, we wish to clarify and correct several...
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francisco blanco
franciscobla...
Jul 5, 2010 10:10 pm
Hello Andrew, my advise is not buying these items unless you want them for decoration purposes. ... From: Andrew Goldberg <guywithcat42@...> Subject: Re:...
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mateusen1
Jul 5, 2010 10:15 pm
I made a trip in Congo last month and I've buyed several objects. One of them is a real mystery for me. Can someone help me the identify this small statue ?...
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Lee Rubinstein
leerubinstein
Jul 5, 2010 10:32 pm
Gi: I think it is reasonable to consider that the square mouth and the stylized eyes may be inspired by characteristics observable in kifwebe masks (attributed...
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M.E.F.
mfliegelmann
Jul 6, 2010 12:44 pm
It is a copy of several things and it shows a sense of humour. I hope you did not pay too much for it? I would have bought it too in that case. M P.S. I like...
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Andrew Goldberg
guywithcat42
Jul 10, 2010 4:06 am
thanks. Is there anything indicating it was made by those other than the lega? Another here in the group suggested our other piece was likely made by the ...
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Andrew Goldberg
guywithcat42
Jul 10, 2010 4:06 am
HI everyone, I am just home from congo and will write a more detailed thank you, along with some other photos shortly. IN the interim, thank you all for your ...
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rpearsonpe
Jul 11, 2010 3:52 am
Giovanna of noire.ivoire told me about this museum just outside of Rome. This is just a sampling of the objects displayed, many from countries with an Italian...
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rpearsonpe
Jul 11, 2010 3:54 am
" A Picture is worth a thousand words", preferably front , back, side angle, and macro closeup of detail or wear patterns. Just my opinion. BTW if the 'pillow'...
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rpearsonpe
Jul 11, 2010 3:57 am
Assume both the mask and songye fetish were made for the tourist market or 'runners' bringing them outside of Africa. They are both 'interesting'; the songye...
