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2428 Tom Tomaka
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Nov 1, 2005
8:02 pm
We do not have a topic selected for our meeting on Thursday, November 10, so I am starting this thread to get your suggestions. Here are two ideas: 1. New...
2429 Tom Tomaka
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Nov 2, 2005
2:11 am
After the New Renaissance presentation on Saturday, Jim asked me about the Afterculture pictures we used. For everyone's benefit, here's the link to Michael...
2430 Tom Tomaka
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Nov 7, 2005
3:16 pm
I am interested in knowing why no one has responded to this essay, which says a lot. In particular, Jensen says the following (my paraphrasing): 1....
2431 megan blackburn
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Nov 7, 2005
10:41 pm
Yes, I am extremely curious what others thought of this essay. Was it so realistic that it's freaked us out? Did it make you wonder if you're a bit too...
2432 Todd Daniel
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Nov 8, 2005
12:49 am
I didn't respond because I disagree with some of his tenets. Civilization Is Going To Crash -- I'm sure people said that during the Bubonic Plague, WWI, the...
2433 Bob Ransom
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Nov 8, 2005
2:30 am
1. Civilization is going to crash, regardless of what we do. Also, it will probably be a messy affair. Depends on how many "we's" there are doing what and how...
2434 megan blackburn
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Nov 8, 2005
3:05 am
Todd - I couldn't agree with you more about the cities... well said. It would be better to keep humans concentrated in sustainable cities and let the rest of...
2436 David Southerland
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Nov 8, 2005
1:54 pm
I respectfully disagree with Todd's contention that the perfect arrangement for humanity is for all of us to live in cities, and the rest of the community of...
2437 vbradova@...
vyera Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2005
5:58 pm
Hey, I am new here. Up in Pickens SC. Yeah, I agree that there is going to be a big crash. And if the rulers figure out how to make robots to do all the work,...
2438 N
happypanda8 Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2005
6:21 pm
Thank you David! Well said and better than I would have done trying to explain the same points. I was getting upset until I came upon your email. Your last...
2439 Tom T.
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Nov 10, 2005
12:10 am
It's great to see how much discussion Derrick Jensen's essay has stimulated. Why don't we incorporate it into our discussion topic for our meeting on Thursday,...
2440 Bob Ransom
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Nov 10, 2005
3:19 am
Hi David, I don't think it's black or white, i.e., cities vs. not. The tension between "country" and city has been going on for thousands of years - see...
2441 vbradova@...
vyera Offline Send Email
Nov 10, 2005
6:08 pm
I think that cities are only viable by robbing everybody else to support them... rural areas end up paying taxes but get very few services, while a lot of it...
2442 David x
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Nov 10, 2005
6:11 pm
i see secession as a version of walking away from the dominant culture. this secessionists in Vermont are trying to make it official. makes me wonder if Native...
2443 Alan Toney
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Nov 11, 2005
1:57 pm
I've been out of pocket recently but I'd like to weight in briefly. I think David and Todd are both right. We are not naturally city monkeys, but it is a good...
2444 Tom Verner
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Nov 12, 2005
4:30 pm
There's also the Free State movement and the Buffalo Commons movement. The Free Staters are trying to get about 20,000 people to come to New Hampshire and...
2445 David Southerland
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Nov 14, 2005
9:01 pm
ATLeavers, A few of us have made arrangements for an ATLeavers trip to the Hostel in the Forest <http://www.foresthostel.org/> (www.foresthostel.org) and ...
2446 Tom Tomaka
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Nov 14, 2005
9:53 pm
I can't wait! My goal is to rake the Labyrinth until I forget how to use spreadsheets and Powerpoint. ... From: David Southerland <david@...> Sent:...
2447 Tom T.
twotom1 Offline Send Email
Nov 16, 2005
4:30 pm
I agree. This secession movement is a walk away toward a better way of life. James Howard Kunstler posted on his web site the speech he gave to this group of...
2448 Todd Daniel
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Nov 18, 2005
1:37 am
But really, Alan: I don't think we Neo-Tribalists will be sitting in our cozy eco-villages watching the people in the cities eating one another. This does,...
2449 vbradova@...
vyera Offline Send Email
Nov 18, 2005
7:44 pm
Todd, thank you for writing so eloquently. I think people do not do the political stuff any more because they know, deep down, that it does not work. Any...
2450 vbradova@...
vyera Offline Send Email
Nov 18, 2005
7:54 pm
Todd, sorry, missed this one. ... to build, then what are we building? Do we wish continued existence and evolution so that we can colonize the Universe or use...
2451 Aradia
aradia12th Offline Send Email
Nov 18, 2005
8:09 pm
Wow - Todd, you hit the nail on the head on every point and asked questions I have been asking myself for as long as I can remember. My psychic sense has ...
2452 Dr. Megan Neyer
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Nov 19, 2005
1:15 am
Program coming up Sunday, Nov 20th, 8-10 on TBS "Earth to America" will feature Tom Hanks, Steve Martin, Will Ferrell, Martin Short, Ben Stiller, Ray Romano,...
2453 Tom Tomaka
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Nov 19, 2005
1:05 pm
Did they choose America's entropy capital as their venue for highlighting the global warming problem, particularly for the irony? People in Las Vegas consume...
2454 Alan Toney
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Nov 19, 2005
2:17 pm
Ok Todd I’ll admit I was being a little tongue and cheek, and as you know my experience has been very similar to yours. However, I am a student of history...
2455 Tom Verner
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Nov 19, 2005
5:48 pm
There's some possiblity that the early Christians actually did attempt to burn Rome during Nero's reign. Tom V vbradova@... wrote: Todd, thank you for...
2456 vbradova@...
vyera Offline Send Email
Nov 19, 2005
6:33 pm
... burn Rome during Nero's reign.< I doubt it... heck, I heard it's not even true that Nero played the violin while Rome burned.... what do we know... On the...
2457 Alan Toney
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Nov 20, 2005
12:31 pm
Not to mention that, LV (the American Sodom and Gomorra) is part of the "Cadillac desert" where that most precious of desert resources, water, is squandered at...
2458 Alan Toney
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Nov 20, 2005
1:10 pm
You can walk away without moving physically. ... From: ATLeavers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ATLeavers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vbradova@... Sent:...
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