While I was checking my credits for WAS I noticed I had a lot of qsls
  not listed in my standings.  I downloaded all my confirmations and I
have 11 states worked but not accounted for.  This is no big deal to
me, but I was curious how often the WAS totals are updated.    Mike  K9HCK

Your awards totals should be correct within seconds of you submitting a log file. 

73, de Hans, K0HB

-----Original Message-----
From: mac2251
Sent: May 3, 2008 1:46 PM
To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] LOTW Confirmations

While I was checking my credits for WAS I noticed I had a lot of qsls
not listed in my standings. I downloaded all my confirmations and I
have 11 states worked but not accounted for. This is no big deal to
me, but I was curious how often the WAS totals are updated. Mike K9HCK

Hi all fellow hams,

My name is Ove Friman is the proud bearer of my original call sign
SMØPSO and my mighty fine vanity call SFØF.

I'm not only ham , I'm a computer programmer as well – On thing that
is totally out of my knowledge scope Is advanced (hey -  plain ole
HTML Is too much for a guy like me) and hence I've a big problem
within my Freeware program  that's under development for some years
now.

To read more about my program and, perhaps, try it out by
downloading, installing it and running the App: LogToWeb  on  a
windows based computer can check this page out:
http://www.sf0f.com/Log2Web.htm

The big hairy problem I have is how to solve the mystery that makes
my already signed TQ8 file uploaded automatically by my application
to the ARRL LoTW database.

I can understand by reading the ARRL pages that the process invokes a
HTTP "post" transaction. I tried the recommended approach by the ARRL
and read RFC1867. I won't lie to you if I tell you that I'm still
confused – and I guess even more so confused since I started my quest
for the holy upload of the TQ8 file.

I know that the ever so brilliant Dave, AA6YQ has incorporated that
functionality in his mighty fine application named DXKeeepr – so I
know it possible to implement in my application as well.

If some kind soul me out here could help I've would be eternally
grateful (and if you where an YL as well I would, on top of that,
offer my services as your  personal slave for many years to come).

73 de Ove Friman - SFØF / THFKS (The Ham Formerly Known as SMØPSO).

Greetings All,

I submitted through a checker 21 cards. I got a DXCC awards Credit Slip
confirming the contacts.

How long does it take for it to appear on LOTW? It was processed on
April 7, 2008

Regards,
Earl, K5FTE

Assuming your DXCC credits prior to this last update appeared in the LotW
DXCC Award matrix, you should see credit for a non-LotW application a day or
two prior to when you receive the credit slip in the mail.  Due to the
current backload this should be approximately 8 weeks (or more) after
submitting your application.  Of course for an all LotW application you'd
see the credit to your LotW DXCC Award matrix in a mater of days.

73 Art W2NRA
"Keep to the Code!"
w2nra.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl" <k5fte@...>
To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Confirmations


> Greetings All,
>
> I submitted through a checker 21 cards. I got a DXCC awards Credit Slip
> confirming the contacts.
>
> How long does it take for it to appear on LOTW? It was processed on
> April 7, 2008
>
> Regards,
> Earl, K5FTE
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Art,
Then can I assume that my most recent non-LoTW credits slipped
through a crack? I have 259 prior confirmed in the current matrix.

Thanks, Earl, K5FTE

--- In ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com, Art Searle W2NRA <w2nra@...> wrote:
>
> Assuming your DXCC credits prior to this last update appeared in
the LotW
> DXCC Award matrix, you should see credit for a non-LotW application
a day or
> two prior to when you receive the credit slip in the mail.  Due to
the
> current backload this should be approximately 8 weeks (or more)
after
> submitting your application.  Of course for an all LotW application
you'd
> see the credit to your LotW DXCC Award matrix in a mater of days.
>
> 73 Art W2NRA
> "Keep to the Code!"
> w2nra.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Earl" <k5fte@...>
> To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 PM
> Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Confirmations
>
>
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I submitted through a checker 21 cards. I got a DXCC awards
Credit Slip
> > confirming the contacts.
> >
> > How long does it take for it to appear on LOTW? It was processed
on
> > April 7, 2008
> >
> > Regards,
> > Earl, K5FTE
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Yes, if you got your credit slip.  Give Bill, NC1L an email or a call.

73 Art W2NRA
"Keep to the Code!"
w2nra.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl" <k5fte@...>


> Art,
> Then can I assume that my most recent non-LoTW credits slipped
> through a crack? I have 259 prior confirmed in the current matrix.
>
> Thanks, Earl, K5FTE
>
> --- In ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com, Art Searle W2NRA <w2nra@...> wrote:
>>
>> Assuming your DXCC credits prior to this last update appeared in
> the LotW
>> DXCC Award matrix, you should see credit for a non-LotW application
> a day or
>> two prior to when you receive the credit slip in the mail.  Due to
> the
>> current backload this should be approximately 8 weeks (or more)
> after
>> submitting your application.  Of course for an all LotW application
> you'd
>> see the credit to your LotW DXCC Award matrix in a mater of days.
>>
>> 73 Art W2NRA
>> "Keep to the Code!"
>> w2nra.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Earl" <k5fte@...>
>> To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 PM
>> Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Confirmations
>>
>>
>> > Greetings All,
>> >
>> > I submitted through a checker 21 cards. I got a DXCC awards
> Credit Slip
>> > confirming the contacts.
>> >
>> > How long does it take for it to appear on LOTW? It was processed
> on
>> > April 7, 2008
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Earl, K5FTE
>

Hit o the list,
I've been in " Your logbook DXCC Account" and can see under the field QSO,
the callsigns in two different colors Purple and light blue.
Please can anybody tell me why?
Which are the difference between the two colors?
Thanks in advance.


73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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----- Original Message -----

From: Vincenzo Mone

To: LoTw Mailing List

Sent: 5/5/2008 6:26:25 PM

Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Different colors

Hit o the list,
I've been in " Your logbook DXCC Account" and can see under the field QSO,
the callsigns in two different colors Purple and light blue.
Please can anybody tell me why?
Which are the difference between the two colors?
Thanks in advance.

73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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----- Original Message -----

From: Vincenzo Mone

To: LoTw Mailing List

Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:26 PM

Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Different colors

Hit o the list,
I've been in " Your logbook DXCC Account" and can see under the field QSO,
the callsigns in two different colors Purple and light blue.
Please can anybody tell me why?
Which are the difference between the two colors?
Thanks in advance.

73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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At 02:26 PM 5/5/2008, Vincenzo Mone wrote:
>Hit o the list,
>I've been in " Your logbook DXCC Account" and can see under the field QSO,
>the callsigns in two different colors Purple and light blue.
>Please can anybody tell me why?
>Which are the difference between the two colors?
>Thanks in advance.

That's a normal web page indication. Light blue links are links you
haven't clicked on while the purple links are those you have clicked
on. (Clicking on the callsigns brings up the QSL detail.)
73,
      -Rick

Greetings,
I contacted Bill at ARRL and there was an apparent "Glitch". He
corrected the problem and now all is well.
Thanks Art and this group for helping me understand LOTW better.

Bill at ARRL DXCC treated me as if I were the only person with a
problem. GREAT SERVICE!

Regards All,
Earl, K5FTE

--- In ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com, Art Searle W2NRA <w2nra@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, if you got your credit slip.  Give Bill, NC1L an email or a
call.
>
> 73 Art W2NRA
> "Keep to the Code!"
> w2nra.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Earl" <k5fte@...>
>
>
> > Art,
> > Then can I assume that my most recent non-LoTW credits slipped
> > through a crack? I have 259 prior confirmed in the current
matrix.
> >
> > Thanks, Earl, K5FTE
> >
> > --- In ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com, Art Searle W2NRA <w2nra@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Assuming your DXCC credits prior to this last update appeared in
> > the LotW
> >> DXCC Award matrix, you should see credit for a non-LotW
application
> > a day or
> >> two prior to when you receive the credit slip in the mail.  Due
to
> > the
> >> current backload this should be approximately 8 weeks (or more)
> > after
> >> submitting your application.  Of course for an all LotW
application
> > you'd
> >> see the credit to your LotW DXCC Award matrix in a mater of days.
> >>
> >> 73 Art W2NRA
> >> "Keep to the Code!"
> >> w2nra.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Earl" <k5fte@>
> >> To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 PM
> >> Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] Confirmations
> >>
> >>
> >> > Greetings All,
> >> >
> >> > I submitted through a checker 21 cards. I got a DXCC awards
> > Credit Slip
> >> > confirming the contacts.
> >> >
> >> > How long does it take for it to appear on LOTW? It was
processed
> > on
> >> > April 7, 2008
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Earl, K5FTE
> >
>

Art N4PJ wrote:

> Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
> Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
> for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
> that call.

If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed.  "The DXCC
guys"  should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
QSL exchange.

If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
from LoTW to LoARRL.

Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
by N4PJ.  Thanks.

73, de Hans, K0HB
Just a boy and his radio.
--
><{{{{*> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb

? What benefit would getting an LoTW confirmation do for you if it
could not be used for an ARRL award?
At this point LoTW is for ARRL awards only and there is no exchange
of a picture card ala the other service (which is not good for any
award program except their own.)


At 02:45 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>Art N4PJ wrote:
>
> > Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
> > Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
> > for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
> > that call.
>
>If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed.  "The DXCC
>guys"  should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
>They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
>for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
>QSL exchange.
>
>If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
>from LoTW to LoARRL.
>
>Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
>by N4PJ.  Thanks.
>
>73, de Hans, K0HB

Jack Hartley
K4WSB / VP2MSB
ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
DXCC Honor Roll

wrong !!!

The A52AM operation was closed by authorities in the BHUTAN,
since it was a LOW power license , and he was using High power.

The Bhutan authorities deemed it illegal, so why would ARRL count it ??

Glenn VA3DX

> At 02:45 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>>Art N4PJ wrote:
>>
>> > Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
>> > Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
>> > for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
>> > that call.
>>
>>If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed.  "The DXCC
>>guys"  should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
>>They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
>>for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
>>QSL exchange.
>>
>>If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
>>from LoTW to LoARRL.
>>
>>Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
>>by N4PJ.  Thanks.
>>
>>73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> Jack Hartley
> K4WSB / VP2MSB
> ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
> DXCC Honor Roll
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Glenn VA3DX

To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 5/6/2008 8:05:46 PM

Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW]Re: Dumb LoTW query

wrong !!!

The A52AM operation was closed by authorities in the BHUTAN,
since it was a LOW power license , and he was using High power.

The Bhutan authorities deemed it illegal, so why would ARRL count it ??

Glenn VA3DX

> At 02:45 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>>Art N4PJ wrote:
>>
>> > Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
>> > Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
>> > for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
>> > that call.
>>
>>If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed. "The DXCC
>>guys" should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
>>They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
>>for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
>>QSL exchange.
>>
>>If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
>>from LoTW to LoARRL.
>>
>>Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
>>by N4PJ. Thanks.
>>
>>73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> Jack Hartley
> K4WSB / VP2MSB
> ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
> DXCC Honor Roll
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

LotW is not simply an alternative to exchanging QSL cards -- it's a
mechanism for producing QSLs that count towards DXCC-family awards. In a
telephone conversation, Bill Moore confirmed to me that any QSL generated by
LotW will count towards DXCC; that's because the verification is performed
before a certificate is granted. You cannot upload QSO to LotW without a
certificate.

To verify this, request a certificate for K0HB/7O . See if they'll grant
your request without requiring proof of permission to operate and proof of
in-country residence.

    73,

       Dave, AA6YQ

-----Original Message-----
From: DX-IS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DX-IS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of K0HB

Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:45 PM
To: DX-IS@yahoogroups.com; ARRL-LOTW
Cc: k0qb@...
Subject: RE: [DX-IS] Re: Dumb LoTW query

Art N4PJ wrote:

> Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
> Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
> for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
> that call.

If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed.  "The DXCC
guys"  should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
QSL exchange.

If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
from LoTW to LoARRL.

Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
by N4PJ.  Thanks.

73, de Hans, K0HB
Just a boy and his radio.
--
><{{{{*> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

----- Original Message -----

From: K0HB

To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:17 PM

Subject: [SPAM]Re: [ARRL-LOTW]Re: Dumb LoTW query

Hi Glenn,

 

It's not an issue of "counting it".

 

I've no problem with ARRL not granting credit for DXCC.

 

My problem is that LoTW (apparently) declines to even show the match.

 

The "builders promise" we got when LoTW was proposed was that it would be the Logbook-of-the-World, not just the Logbook-of-QSOs-that-met-DXCC-rules.

 

73, de Hans, K0HB

Just a boy and his radio

 

--

><{{{{*> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Glenn VA3DX

To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 5/6/2008 8:05:46 PM

Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW]Re: Dumb LoTW query

wrong !!!

The A52AM operation was closed by authorities in the BHUTAN,
since it was a LOW power license , and he was using High power.

The Bhutan authorities deemed it illegal, so why would ARRL count it ??

Glenn VA3DX

> At 02:45 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
>>Art N4PJ wrote:
>>
>> > Your use of A52AM is as good an example as any.
>> > Since the DXCC guys disallowed any DXCC submission
>> > for A52AM, you will *not* see a match in LoTW for
>> > that call.
>>
>>If that is true, then LoTW is fundamentally flawed. "The DXCC
>>guys" should not be the gatekeeper of my "box of QSL's".
>>They're certainly free to decline to accept A52AM (or K0HB)
>>for DXCC credits, but they should NOT be free to block our
>>QSL exchange.
>>
>>If that is the LoTW policy, then they need to change the name
>>from LoTW to LoARRL.
>>
>>Director Bellows, could you verify or deny the lead statement
>>by N4PJ. Thanks.
>>
>>73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> Jack Hartley
> K4WSB / VP2MSB
> ARRL - QCWA - OOTC
> DXCC Honor Roll
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--- In ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com, Jack - K4WSB <K4WSB@...> wrote:
>
> ? What benefit would getting an LoTW confirmation do for you if it
> could not be used for an ARRL award?
> At this point LoTW is for ARRL awards only and there is no exchange
> of a picture card ala the other service (which is not good for any
> award program except their own.)
>

The publicity has been that LoTW wishes to be useable for non-ARRL
awards - that someday, you should be able to use that A52AM
confirmation in LoTW for WAZ, or that W9WI/m QSL for USACA, etc...

I think Hans' point is that he did in fact *work* A52AM.  If both I
and the guy who was in Yemen at the time believe there was a QSO
between W9WI and 7O1YGF on 20 CW at 1612UTC on July 7th, 2000, then
there *was* a QSO and there *should* be a match.  (I do, after all,
have a paper QSL for a QSO with 7O1YGF, and there's no evidence, or
even rumor, that that QSL was forged.)

The QSO may not be valid for DXCC (because the 7O1YGF license wasn't
valid) but it might be valid for WAZ if the CQ folks disagree with
Newington on the validity of the 7O license.

The obvious fix is to add a field to the database
"valid_for_arrl_awards" which is set "true" by default but cleared to
"false" in cases where QSOs with a particular station are not valid,
for example A52AM.

I'm not at all sure it would be a good idea to "fix" this though.
It's pretty sensitive ground.  A52AM is not being accepted out of the
belief that the Bhutani government and/or any local hams could be
offended by a bunch of foreigners coming in & not playing by the
rules.  It could have negative consequences for future DXpeditions or
even for the local hams.  The folks in Bhutan really won't care much
whether it's an ARRL award or a CQ award that's being claimed with
QSOs made in violation of their rules.  And since it's obvious that
LoTW is an ARRL program, the ARRL is going to be held responsible for
cooperating in a violation of A5 law.

I am curious whether the A52AM QSOs are retained in the database.  In
some cases an expedition has later presented evidence that a license
originally thought invalid was in fact valid, and QSLs that were
previously rejected can be resumitted and approved.  Is there a
provision for "unrejecting" the A52AM QSOs if their operation later
turns out to be legal?

On May 7, 2008, at 09:09 , w9wi wrote:

> I am curious whether the A52AM QSOs are retained in the database.  In
> some cases an expedition has later presented evidence that a license
> originally thought invalid was in fact valid, and QSLs that were
> previously rejected can be resumitted and approved.  Is there a
> provision for "unrejecting" the A52AM QSOs if their operation later
> turns out to be legal?

The way I understand this, the operation was deemed to be illegal and
so the A52AM operation never got a certificate for LotW. Currently
there is no log data for A52AM, so there are no QSOs in the database
to retain.

If it is later judged to be a legal operation, then a certificate can
be issued and the contacts uploaded.

73,


John Bastin K8AJS
bastinj@...

How do I tell LoTW a cross-band contact via satellite?

Larry W7IN

Hi fellow Dxers

Does anyone know if there is a list of ARRL accredited/rejected operations
visible to the public?

It's the latter I am interested in - for a 9D2UU operation from the early
90's.

73

Dave
G3NKC

CHECK OUT LZ2UU WHO HAS 9D2UU OPERATIONS LISTED FOR 1996 AND 1997.
  SEARCH QRZ.COM LZ2UU AND SEND HIM A POSTCARD THROUGH THE QRZ SERVICE AND
QUERY HIM ON THIS ONE.
   HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU IF IT IS GOOD FOR ARRL.

CHUCK.

Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] DXCC/LOTW accepted/rejected operations list


Does anyone know if there is a list of ARRL accredited/rejected operations
visible to the public?

----- Original Message -----

From: Chuck

To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW] DXCC/LOTW accepted/rejected operations list

CHECK OUT LZ2UU WHO HAS 9D2UU OPERATIONS LISTED FOR 1996 AND 1997.
SEARCH QRZ.COM LZ2UU AND SEND HIM A POSTCARD THROUGH THE QRZ SERVICE AND
QUERY HIM ON THIS ONE.
HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU IF IT IS GOOD FOR ARRL.

CHUCK.

Subject: [ARRL-LOTW] DXCC/LOTW accepted/rejected operations list

Does anyone know if there is a list of ARRL accredited/rejected operations
visible to the public?

how long does it take for a hybrid was application to be approved?




                                 thanks
                                 george w1wml

Hi Dave,

That is a very good question.  The answer is no.  To my knowledge there is
one source of approved DXpeditions, much less an cumulative listing.
Sometimes the ARRL will post them to the DXCC Blog.  Sometimes they are
included in DX Bulletins.  Sometimes they are sent to other DX publications.
And usually they are posted in QST.  But there is no one source listing.
I've been meaning to ask Bill, NC1L, about this but I just never seem to get
around to it.  Hey, maybe that's the same reason there is no central
listing.

73 Art W2NRA
"Keep to the Code!"
w2nra.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sharred" <g3nkc@...>

> Hi fellow Dxers
>
> Does anyone know if there is a list of ARRL accredited/rejected operations
> visible to the public?
>
> It's the latter I am interested in - for a 9D2UU operation from the early
> 90's.
>
> 73
>
> Dave
> G3NKC

At 09:49 PM 5/9/2008, Art Searle W2NRA wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>
>That is a very good question.  The answer is no.  To my knowledge
>there is
>one source of approved DXpeditions, much less an cumulative listing.

Managing such a list would be impossible. Every time some US operator
gets on from somewhere in Europe via a CEPT authorization someone at
ARRL would have to be notified.

>Sometimes the ARRL will post them to the DXCC Blog.  Sometimes they are
>included in DX Bulletins.  Sometimes they are sent to other DX
>publications.
>And usually they are posted in QST.  But there is no one source listing.

I'd expect that there is a list of entities that need extra scrutiny
and a list of unapproved operations. At the very least, the DXCC field
checkers have to have that information. Otherwise, they'll approve a
card only to have it rejected at headquarters. However, I have had that
happen (field check ok, DXCC desk rejected), so maybe only the DXCC
desk has a list.
          -Rick

The Golist, Qsl Manager database maintains a list of DXCC approved
dxpeditions in its weekly data file updates for Golist subscribers. This
has been a very useful tool for many DXers and award collectors.
John K1XN


Rick Murphy/K1MU wrote:
> At 09:49 PM 5/9/2008, Art Searle W2NRA wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> That is a very good question.  The answer is no.  To my knowledge
>> there is
>> one source of approved DXpeditions, much less an cumulative listing.
>>
>
> Managing such a list would be impossible. Every time some US operator
> gets on from somewhere in Europe via a CEPT authorization someone at
> ARRL would have to be notified.
>
>
>> Sometimes the ARRL will post them to the DXCC Blog.  Sometimes they are
>> included in DX Bulletins.  Sometimes they are sent to other DX
>> publications.
>> And usually they are posted in QST.  But there is no one source listing.
>>
>
> I'd expect that there is a list of entities that need extra scrutiny
> and a list of unapproved operations. At the very least, the DXCC field
> checkers have to have that information. Otherwise, they'll approve a
> card only to have it rejected at headquarters. However, I have had that
> happen (field check ok, DXCC desk rejected), so maybe only the DXCC
> desk has a list.
>          -Rick
>
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Hi Rick,

NRA> comments below:

From: "Rick Murphy/K1MU"

K1MU> Managing such a list would be impossible. Every time some US
K1MU> operator gets on from somewhere in Europe via a CEPT
K1MU> authorization someone at ARRL would have to be notified.

NRA> I wasn't talking about a complete list.  Just a list of approved
NRA> DXPeditions from the "list of entities that need extra scrutiny"
NRA> which amounts to a couple of approvals every week.

K1MU> I'd expect that there is a list of entities that need extra scrutiny
K1MU> and a list of unapproved operations. At the very least, the DXCC
K1MU> field checkers have to have that information. Otherwise, they'll
K1MU> approve a card only to have it rejected at headquarters. However,
K1MU> I have had that happen (field check ok, DXCC desk rejected),
K1MU> so maybe only the DXCC desk has a list.

NRA> A "list of entities that need extra scrutiny" would be a useful list
NRA> to make available to us.  I think a list of unapproved operations
NRA> could be confusing because all DXpeditions are unapproved or
NRA> pending documentation at some point.  I think a list if disapproved
NRA> operations would be very useful.

NRA> As to field checkers; they do not need to know which operations
NRA> are approved.  They only verify that a QSL card has been checked.
NRA> The DXCC Desk determines which QSLs are valid once they get
NRA> the sheet the card checkers verify.

73 Art W2NRA
"Keep to the Code!"
w2nra.com

From: "K1XN"

> The Golist, Qsl Manager database maintains a list of DXCC approved
> dxpeditions in its weekly data file updates for Golist subscribers. This
> has been a very useful tool for many DXers and award collectors.
> John K1XN

I have no doubt that the Golist and the QSL Manager database maintain an
accurate list of approved DXCC DXpeditions.  But I'd like to see an official
list from the ARRL.  I would think it would be easy to maintain such a list
either manually or by automatically generated report from the DXCC or LotW
software.

73 Art W2NRA
"Keep to the Code!"
w2nra.com

> Rick Murphy/K1MU wrote:
>> At 09:49 PM 5/9/2008, Art Searle W2NRA wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> That is a very good question.  The answer is no.  To my knowledge
>>> there is
>>> one source of approved DXpeditions, much less an cumulative listing.
>>>
>>
>> Managing such a list would be impossible. Every time some US operator
>> gets on from somewhere in Europe via a CEPT authorization someone at
>> ARRL would have to be notified.
>>
>>
>>> Sometimes the ARRL will post them to the DXCC Blog.  Sometimes they are
>>> included in DX Bulletins.  Sometimes they are sent to other DX
>>> publications.
>>> And usually they are posted in QST.  But there is no one source listing.
>>>
>>
>> I'd expect that there is a list of entities that need extra scrutiny
>> and a list of unapproved operations. At the very least, the DXCC field
>> checkers have to have that information. Otherwise, they'll approve a
>> card only to have it rejected at headquarters. However, I have had that
>> happen (field check ok, DXCC desk rejected), so maybe only the DXCC
>> desk has a list.
>>          -Rick
>>
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