OH2BU/MVI via LoTW
Thanks for the 1995 qso.

OH2BU/MVI via LoTW
Thanks for the 1995 qso.


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Thanks Jari
I got all of them.

At least I got the ones I worked. hihi


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jari Jussila" <Jari.Jussila@...>
To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW] received today: OH2BU/MVI and more ...


>
> That's right BIll ...
>
> Uploaded a couple of days ago the following DX pedition logs:
>         - XF4L          1989                    (16.000 of 48.000 QSO's,
> 508, matches/QSL's so far)
>         - OH2BU/MVI     (1995)                  (9.000 QSO's, 280
> matches/QSLs so far)
>         - R1MVI         (1995)                  (9.000 QSO's, 425
> matxhes/QSL's so far)
>         - 4J1FS         (Malyj Vysotskij, 1992) (74.000 QSO's, 1904
> matches/QSL's so far)
>
> and will upload after a couple hours
>         - 4J1FS         (Malyj Vysotskij, 1991) (23.000 QSO's).
>
> The earlier:
>         - YS1X          El Salvador             (24.000 QSO's, 2358
> matches/QSL's so far)
>
>
> - The XF4L uploading includes only the U.S. prefixes starting with A, N, K
> and W and prefixes starting with E, F and G. Those are the only electronic
> files found. I have the full paper logs of all 48.000 QSO's, however.
>
> - The Malyj Vysotskij -files/logs (OH2BU/MVI, R1MVI and 4J1FS) had problems
> with the time. I remember that for some reason there was a offset of some
> 45 minutes (which is more than the 30 minute limit LOTW accepts) in many of
> the QSO's and in some QSO's a 7 hours offset because of wrong parameters
> when using the old Excel time parameter.
>
> - If you have already a paper QSL and can't find the QSO from LOTW, try
> using and uploading the date and time in the paper QSL. If that doesn't
> work out, I can check the log and upload the QSO's for you again.
>
>
> Jari, OH2BU/OH7RF
>
>
>
>
> At 17:12 5.12.2005, you wrote:
>>OH2BU/MVI via LoTW
>>Thanks for the 1995 qso.
>>
>>
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>>and craft supply
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Just worked Charlie, S9SS on 15 m CW this past weekend.  Got a LoTW confirmation yesterday.  Looks like he is using LoTW now.

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Bruce C. Thompson (N7TY)

Gabrielle T. Steinau (KG6CXL)

Coronado, CA

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TZ6NS via LoTW for multiple band/modes.
Thank you especially the 40cw & 17 rtty
which were new band/mode confirmations for me.
received 3 days after sending for the hardcard qsls. :-(((

like the song....
'I don't care how you git here
just git here, when you can'

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FP/K8DD via LoTW.
Thank you Henry.

(another set of LoTW qsls I had just sent for via the manager) :-))))

I guess the LoTW idea is catching on...<smile>


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FT5XO and VP5/N0VD via LoTW
Thanks to Microlite and Kelly for the qso's and qsl's.




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VP2E via LoTW
For a 160 meter CW qso during the contest.
Thank you.


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3C2MV via LoTW, for a 20 cw and 10 ssb qso.
thank you guys.


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Gentlemen,

   Join  the "If no LoTW confirmation - then NO paper card" action, see
   www.qrz.com/rx9tx :-)

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  73...Art RX9TX      24-Dec-05 08:19 UTC

  http://rx9tx.qrz.ru

  "To see things in the seed, that is genius."     (Lao-tzu)

Art,

With all due respect and the overall support of the idea of LoTW as you know
well, let me respectully disagree with you.

An essence of the HAM spirit requires every amateur to reply on any QSL
request he receives. A QSL request means, somebody needs this card. Any
condition put on the way of receipt of a card puts the HAM spirit under a
question mark...

Sorry to be quite tough this Holiday's time.

Merry Christmas to all listees,

73,

Vladimir EU1SA

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>
>  Join  the "If no LoTW confirmation - then NO paper card" action, see
>  www.qrz.com/rx9tx :-)
>
> --
> 73...Art RX9TX      24-Dec-05 08:19 UTC
>

Also, don't forget that many, many hams do not even own a computer. Not
only can't they comply with your wishes Art, they won't even know about
them.

73,
Chris, ACØM


Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote:
> Art,
>
> With all due respect and the overall support of the idea of LoTW as you
> know
> well, let me respectully disagree with you.
>
> An essence of the HAM spirit requires every amateur to reply on any QSL
> request he receives. A QSL request means, somebody needs this card. Any
> condition put on the way of receipt of a card puts the HAM spirit under a
> question mark...
>
> Sorry to be quite tough this Holiday's time.
>
> Merry Christmas to all listees,
>
> 73,
>
> Vladimir EU1SA
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
>  >
>  >  Join  the "If no LoTW confirmation - then NO paper card" action, see
>  >  www.qrz.com/rx9tx :-)
>  >
>  > --
>  > 73...Art RX9TX      24-Dec-05 08:19 UTC
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Hello Vladimir,

  Saturday, December 24, 2005 Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote to
ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com:

VVS> An essence of the HAM spirit requires every amateur to reply on any QSL
VVS> request he receives.

If I upload my logs to the LoTW that means I want these requests to be
confirmed.

VVS> A  QSL request means, somebody needs this card. Any condition put
VVS> on  the  way  of  receipt  of  a card puts the HAM spirit under a
VVS> question mark...

Does that concern LoTW "requests"?

MC/HNY :)

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  http://rx9tx.qrz.ru

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Hello C.M.,

  Saturday, December 24, 2005 C.M. Christensen wrote to
ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com:

CMC> Also, don't forget that many, many hams do not even own a computer. Not
CMC> only can't they comply with your wishes Art, they won't even know about
CMC> them.

  Actually  I  believe  this  is a myth. I have just made a test with a
  bunch  of  latest  cards  from  my  table,  41 - labels printed, 43 -
  handwritten.  5 of that 43 - RTTY contacts made with computers. 19 of
  38  remaining  -  contest  contacts, I bet computer logs were used. A
  half  of 19 remaining cards have e-mail address on them, though it is
  not  a  direct  evidence. So I think at least 90% of active hams have
  computer logs.

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  http://rx9tx.qrz.ru

  "They make a desert and call it peace." [Tacitus]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

At 06:21 AM 12/24/2005, Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote:
>An essence of the HAM spirit requires every amateur to reply on any QSL
>request he receives. A QSL request means, somebody needs this card. Any
>condition put on the way of receipt of a card puts the HAM spirit under a
>question mark...


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I do not collect paper cards, so if someone wants a card from me,
they must send me a SASE, just as I would with them. I make thousands
of QSOs each year and receive hundreds of cards. I think it is an
imposition to expect me to pay postage for their benefit. It's enough
that I pay for printing the cards, don't you think?

LOTW is the way of the future. We should discourage paper cards as
much as possible. We should also find ways for non-computerized
stations to submit and receive LOTW credit, either through a radio
club or some other means. Paper cards served a good purpose in the
past, but in this age of the internet they are rapidly becoming out of date.

73, Bill W6WRT

Bill,

The yours truly is a honest fan of LoTW. Moreover, I can call myself a
promoter of LoTW of a kind, and Art can confirm that. And I also make
thousands of QSOs each year and, to be honest, also don't really like to
process received cards. In the meantime IMHO, people should not be
DISCOURAGED to use paper cards. Instead, people should be ENCOURAGED to use
LoTW. The moment they understand, the LoTW confirmations are easier and
cheaper, they will cut the paper cards' turnover themselves.

Until it happened, my personal principle is, any received card should be
answered the way it is received, i.e. direct reply on a direct request, and
a bureau reply on a bureau request.

A promotion of LoTW is another story. But Gents, let us the LoTW fans be
careful, by quick unthought decisions we might create an allergic reaction
on LoTW as a whole.

73,

Vladimir EU1SA
65k QSOs in LoTW, 6.7k LoTW QSLs

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Turner" <dezrat1242@...>
To: <ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW] "If no LoTW confirmation - then NO paper card"


>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
>
> At 06:21 AM 12/24/2005, Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote:
>>An essence of the HAM spirit requires every amateur to reply on any QSL
>>request he receives. A QSL request means, somebody needs this card. Any
>>condition put on the way of receipt of a card puts the HAM spirit under a
>>question mark...
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I do not collect paper cards, so if someone wants a card from me,
> they must send me a SASE, just as I would with them. I make thousands
> of QSOs each year and receive hundreds of cards. I think it is an
> imposition to expect me to pay postage for their benefit. It's enough
> that I pay for printing the cards, don't you think?
>
> LOTW is the way of the future. We should discourage paper cards as
> much as possible. We should also find ways for non-computerized
> stations to submit and receive LOTW credit, either through a radio
> club or some other means. Paper cards served a good purpose in the
> past, but in this age of the internet they are rapidly becoming out of
> date.
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

At 07:56 AM 12/24/2005, K0HB wrote:
>The Armenian judges gave this a 9.8 on the Olympic Troll-O-Meter,
>but they were over-ruled by the umpires in instant replay, who
>award it a 2.8
>
>The Armenian judges lodged a formal protest!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Some day I hope to meet you Hans, just to see what a true oddball
looks like. Hopefully I can do it incognito so you won't know who I
am. You seem harmless enough but one never knows....

73, Bill W6WRT

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

At 09:04 AM 12/24/2005, Vladimir V. Sidorov wrote:
>In the meantime IMHO, people should not be
>DISCOURAGED to use paper cards. Instead, people should be ENCOURAGED to use
>LoTW. The moment they understand, the LoTW confirmations are easier and
>cheaper, they will cut the paper cards' turnover themselves.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I agree. I didn't mean to ACTIVELY discourage paper cards, just to
encourage LOTW in the hopes that paper cards would become passe. You
are absolutely right.

73, Bill W6WRT

You can send it by railway, you can send it by trailway
You can send it on an airplane, you can send it with your mind
You can send it by caravan, cross the desert like an Arab man
I don't care how it,           just - get it here if you can

You can send it by sail boat, climb a tree and swing rope to rope
Take a sled and slide down the slope, into these logs of mine
You can jump on a speedy colt, cross the border in a blaze of hope
I don't care how it gets here, just - get it here how you can

There are hills and mountains between us
Always somet'in to swim or cover
If I had my way, surely you'd be closer
I need to know you sent it over


It can windsurf to my log, send it on a carpet ride
It can make it in a big balloon, but you better make it soon

You can send it by caravan, cross the desert like an Arab man
I don't care how it,       just - get it here if you can

I don't care how, just -- get it here -- fast as you can



my apologies to Oleta

Bill, W9OL

On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Bill Turner wrote:

> I do not collect paper cards, so if someone wants a card from me,
> they must send me a SASE, just as I would with them. I make thousands
> of QSOs each year and receive hundreds of cards. I think it is an
> imposition to expect me to pay postage for their benefit. It's enough
> that I pay for printing the cards, don't you think?

Nope. The QSL "is the final courtesy of the QSO." Just think if all
those guys whom you work every year suddenly stopped working you if
you don't QSL. Your contest scores would go way down.

I QSL 100%. It may take a while to get a card back if there's no
SASE, but they will eventually get one back.

LoTW is the future, I agree, but paper QSLing will have a place for
some time to come.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr@...
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
              -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Coleman

To: ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:14 PM

Subject: Re: [ARRL-LOTW] "If no LoTW confirmation - then NO paper card"

On Dec 24, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Bill Turner wrote:

> I do not collect paper cards, so if someone wants a card from me,
> they must send me a SASE, just as I would with them. I make thousands
> of QSOs each year and receive hundreds of cards. I think it is an
> imposition to expect me to pay postage for their benefit. It's enough
> that I pay for printing the cards, don't you think?

Nope. The QSL "is the final courtesy of the QSO." Just think if all 
those guys whom you work every year suddenly stopped working you if 
you don't QSL. Your contest scores would go way down.

I QSL 100%. It may take a while to get a card back if there's no 
SASE, but they will eventually get one back.

LoTW is the future, I agree, but paper QSLing will have a place for 
some time to come.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr@...
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
             -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

At 03:14 PM 12/24/2005, you wrote:

>Nope. The QSL "is the final courtesy of the QSO."


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Anybody can say anything they want. Whether I buy into it or not is a
different matter.

73, Bill W6WRT

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Some day I hope to meet you Hans, just to see what a true oddball
> looks like. Hopefully I can do it incognito ........
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT

Had a '63 Incognito once Bill.  Great gas mileage, but a pretty average
looking car, and I kept losing it in large parking lots because it was hard
to recognize in a crowd.

You can meet me on my web site, URL below.  Nice fish, huh!

73, de Hans, K0HB
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

At 09:22 PM 12/24/2005, K0HB wrote:

>You can meet me on my web site, URL below.  Nice fish, huh!
>
>73, de Hans, K0HB


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just as I thought, fairly normal looking. The guy holding the fish
though... dunno.

73, Bill W6WRT

>  Actually  I  believe  this  is a myth. I have just made a test with a
>  bunch  of  latest  cards  from  my  table,  41 - labels printed, 43 -
>  handwritten.  5 of that 43 - RTTY contacts made with computers. 19 of
>  38  remaining  -  contest  contacts, I bet computer logs were used. A
>  half  of 19 remaining cards have e-mail address on them, though it is
>  not  a  direct  evidence. So I think at least 90% of active hams have
>  computer logs.

computer yes or no, LOTW has some 17.000 certificates..

so you exclude 99.x percent of all hams from QSLing you
- great idea!

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Hello Andreas,

  Sunday, December 25, 2005 Andreas Rehberg wrote to ARRL-LOTW@yahoogroups.com:

AR> computer yes or no, LOTW has some 17.000 certificates..

AR> so you exclude 99.x percent of all hams from QSLing you
AR> - great idea!

  Why should I be nice with those who doesn't want to be nice with me?

--
  73...Art RX9TX        26-Dec-05 14:05 UTC

  "Take the first advice of a woman; not the second." [French proverb]

I finally made a QSO contact with R1ANN. If you saw my station, you'd
ask yourself how I was able to ever complete the QSO. Band has been in
the best shape its been all winter so far. Anyway, I looked up his
callsign on qrz.com and it says to qsl via RZ3DJ. I don't even know if
RZ3DJ is registered with LOTW. I've had other examples of QSO's where
I am to QSL via another callsign. How can this be accomplished?

Thanks,
Scott KN3A

On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 12:21:56AM -0000, scottpa1960 wrote:
> I finally made a QSO contact with R1ANN. If you saw my station, you'd
> ask yourself how I was able to ever complete the QSO. Band has been in
> the best shape its been all winter so far. Anyway, I looked up his
> callsign on qrz.com and it says to qsl via RZ3DJ. I don't even know if
> RZ3DJ is registered with LOTW. I've had other examples of QSO's where
> I am to QSL via another callsign. How can this be accomplished?

I think you should just submit a QSO record for R1ANN as normal.
RZ3DJ as manager should have a certificate registered for R1ANN so that
they may upload R1ANN's logs.

73, good DX.

Hamish
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The unexpected confirmations continue to show up on LOTW.  Today a
confirmation for AH3C/KH5J (Palmyra & Jarvis) from April 1990 arrived on
LOTW.  My confirmation rate on LOTW is 11.85%.  Keep the faith.

73,
Mike, W5UC

QRP is like a margarita with no Tequila


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