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An provenienced pomegranate from Jerusalem/City of David excavations   Message List  
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Re: [ANE-2] An provenienced pomegranate from Jerusalem/City of David excavations

This is an interesting article with exciting finds, but I am bothered by
the beginning which says that the pomegranate found in the City of David
is similar in form to the 400 decorative pomegranates which are described
in Solomons Temple according to the book of Kings 7:43 (should be v. 42
and cf also v, 20!)

Now this is absolute nonsense. The pomegranates in the temple descriptions
were part of the yakhin and Boaz pillar crowns which were made of bronze
and not ivory as is the new pomegranate. Also, the new pomegranate has a
dove sitting on it. Where is this desribed in I Kings 7 which, in fact,
doesnt describe the pomegranates at all, let alone the doves on top of
them, unless we somehow take hassebakah mentioned along with weharimmonim
as a corruption of ha$$obek (dove coop). At most one can say that the
newly discovered pomegranate can be, like pomegranates mentioned in
various biblical passages, a decorative motif known also from cultic
contexts.

Victor Hurowitz

BGU





On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, eliot braun wrote:

> Haaretz in Hebrew has photos of a pomegranate and a bulla from excavations.
Both are dated to the Iron Age. This is in Hebrew; perhaps it will appear in
English later.
>
> http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1054101.html
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> Eliot Braun, Ph D
> Sr. Fellow WF Albright Institute of Archaeological Research, Jerusalem
> Associate Researcher Centre de Recherche Français de Jérusalem
> PO Box 21, Har Adar 90836 Israel
> Tel 972-2-5345687, Cell 972-50-2231096
>
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Haaretz in Hebrew has photos of a pomegranate and a bulla from excavations. Both are dated to the Iron Age. This is in Hebrew; perhaps it will appear in...
eliot braun
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Jan 9, 2009
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This is an interesting article with exciting finds, but I am bothered by the beginning which says that the pomegranate found in the City of David is similar in...
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Jan 9, 2009
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Dear Dr. Hurowitz, I am curious if the Bible tells us that Ivory is not allowed in the Temple? In Samaria, archaeologists sure found a lot of it, ca. 12,000...
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Jan 10, 2009
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I know of no biblical prohibition on the use of ivory in the Temple or the Tabernacle. ON the other hand, both temples are described in great detail and there...
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Jan 10, 2009
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In the recent well-received book *The World After Us* (in which a naturalist/journalist explores the effect of humanity on the natural world), there is a brief...
Peter T. Daniels
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Jan 9, 2009
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To the best of my knowledge there is no specific biblical connection between ivory and pagan practices, although Amos 3:3; 6:4 seems to considered its various...
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Jan 10, 2009
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Do we know of anyone who is conversant in both modern Hebrew and English who could translate this?  :-)   Hello, Victor. george gfsomsel … search for...
George F Somsel
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Jan 9, 2009
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I assume that it will appear in Ha'aretz English soon enough. Victor Hurowitz BGU...
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Jan 10, 2009
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I as well don't know of any prohibition of the use of ivory.  I do know, however, that one prophet spoke against its use as being conspicuous luxury when...
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