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RE: [2ampd] Charged With Murder For Self-Defense

One of the accounts said the DA stated self defense has to be even force.  If someone comes after you with a stick, shooting them is not justified.  Sorry, but I know plenty of people that can do serious damage with just a broom handle. 

 

All looks like self defense to me.

 


From: 2ampd@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2ampd@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Henry
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:20 PM
To: 2ampd@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [2ampd] Charged With Murder For Self-Defense

 




Geez, something is really screwed up here.

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From: 2ampd@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2ampd@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck44@GotSky.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [2ampd] Charged With Murder For Self-Defense

At 7/8/2009 13:40 -0500, Jim Henry wrote the following:

>Anything new on this case yet?

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=digGhSqIqUw7a7MG7d5UQlnH350fM



Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:40 am

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... http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=digGhSqIqUw7a7MG7d5UQlnH350fM...
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In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:43:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jhenry@... writes: Anything new on this case yet? I can't see how anything could have...
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Geez, something is really screwed up here. ... From: 2ampd@yahoogroups.com [mailto:2ampd@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck44@... Sent: Wednesday, July...
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One of the accounts said the DA stated self defense has to be even force. If someone comes after you with a stick, shooting them is not justified. Sorry, but I...
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There is a martial arts instructor here in Kalamazoo that is very skilled. I personally videotaped him doing a demonstration with a ping-pong ball, and a paper...
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No, only EQUIVALENT force. There are two categories, non-deadly and deadly. ... From: Andy Keiser To: 2ampd@yahoogroups.com Sent: 7/8/2009 10:38:33 PM ...
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I thought that you were also justified to use deadly force to prevent serious bodily injury? If the person only plans on kicking the crap out of me, and leave...
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I served on two grand juries. We usually follow the DA's recommendations but we did indict a couple that she wanted no-billed and we no-billed a couple that...
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Generally self defense and the use of deadly force is defined: That force that would cause death may be used in defense of yourself or an innocent third party...
Keith Kilby
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The Grand Jury is a joke. 8 times out of 10 they DA will get an indictment, even if there is NOT probable cause. This is not usually found out until the trial....
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Probably more lke 99 out of 100. ‘Probable cause’ is pretty technical. It is a loophole that should be decided by the jury – not the GJ. The...
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Yeah wasnt sure (brain fort). however the DA vowing to have a trial. If not for murder it will be for man slaughter. ... From: Jack <jack@...> ...
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Everything up to and including the trial itself IS about probable cause. "That information or evidence that would lead a reasonable, prudent person, of normal...
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You are kidding, right? :-) Reasonable grounds for belief that an accused person may be subject to arrest or the issuance of a warrant. The Fourth...
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In Virginia the general rule of thumb used by the Judiciary is 51 percent. If the "information and evidence" factors out to a 51 percent certainty then you get...
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