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#30 From: "opfordrummer" <opfordrummer@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: Command Structure/Field Protocols-ReWar
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Laura...
> What is the command structure in Field Music?  What are the ranks
and
> who does what?
That's a tricky question. In my experience, in a large event, the
organiser or host unit will call on a known drummer to act as Drum
Major. In smaller events, it can be a coin toss on the field. The
former is more so in RevWar...we are working to get this kind of
organization in F&I as well.
>
> When on the field, do the musicians generally stay with their own
> units for form a massed group under the Field Commander?

In the Continental Line, we will usually mass on the way, and post to
individual units just prior to the battle. Note I am saying this is
what I see, not saying this is the "way it was done", or not.
>
> Are there any good resources that describe the Field Musician's
duties?
The best I have read is Raoul Camus' books, and the writings of John
Rees (available online)
I hope this is some help. Anyone else?
Bryant

#29 From: "opfordrummer" <opfordrummer@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 4:50 pm
Subject: Just joined
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Hello all,
It's great to see folks I know on here and even better to see new
names. I am Bryant White. I am a drummer & do both Rev War & F&I in
1st Maryland & Weiser's Battalion. I hope to gain some knowledge from
everyone here.
See ya'll on the field.

#28 From: "Laura Troy" <Ltroy@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 4:24 pm
Subject: Command Structure/Field Protocols-ReWar
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Hello Everyone,

I have a few questions for the more experienced musicians (or anyone
who knows more about this than I do).  Since I just started actually
doing Field Music last year, I sort of just followed everyone else
around and tried not to look too confused ...

What is the command structure in Field Music?  What are the ranks and
who does what?

When on the field, do the musicians generally stay with their own
units for form a massed group under the Field Commander?

Are there any good resources that describe the Field Musician's duties?

Any help and information you could give me would be greatly appreciated!

YHS,

Laura Troy
11th Pennyslvania Regiment

#27 From: "Jim Krause" <sodshanty@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 3:16 pm
Subject: Introduction
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Hello the List,
      My name is Jim Krause and I am a fifer.  While technically
speaking I am not an 18th century re-enactor, I am interested in the
Field Musick of the 18th century, nevertheless.
      I do my re-enacting at Ft. Osage, Jackson County, MO where I
represent the company fifer stationed at the fort from 1808 to 1820.
In my reading and studying, I am discovering that much of the camp
duty and other music played by the compny fife and drum was pretty
much the same as during the Revolutionary War.  I am currently
developing a webpage dedicated to my hobby at http://www.old-sod-
shanty.com/fifer.html Drop by my site, often as the photographs will
change as I get them scanned.  As always, your obedient Servant, Jim

#26 From: "Lori J." <webfoot@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 11:53 am
Subject: Re: new to the list
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I, too, L-O-V-E Ron Peeler fifes! I have one of his first (I used to
work with the gent) and it's just plain sweet to play. Very easy to
get a good tone out of it!


Ah, I should introduce m'self while I'm here... I portray Miles Cook,
drummer for the 6th CT. Not that I was a drummer before! I'd been a
CW fifer when I met my group, but they had a drum and I figured "Ah,
what's one more instrument..."
I don't know the music, as I've no fifer to play with regularly, but
I love doing the field duties. I'm into my 3rd season with the 6th
and truly enjoy being their drummer. It's a fun personna to have.


...Lori


--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, loyalist1776@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/2/2003 9:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Ltroy@o... writes:
>
>
> > Most of the fifers I know play the 6-hole Model F fife, which
costs roughly
> > $100.  You can find it at the above-mentioned website or even
some sutlers
> > carry it
>
> I play a model F and I love it much more than my moms Ferrary. I
also LOVE
> Peeler fifes. Ron Peeler does a good job with them and he makes
them with the
> short ferrels

#25 From: "berkshire1777" <rglidden@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 3:53 am
Subject: Suggestion
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Wow, 22 memebrs the very first day the list is up.  Not bad.

I'm assuming most people here have some experience with RevList or
other Yahoo Groups.  Those that are new to Yahoo, if you decide that
reciving the individual emails is too time consuming, just go
to "Edit Membership" and switch to the "Daily Digest" rather
than "Individual Emails".  I wouldn't want anyone dropping off list
because of too much chatter, but it is nice to see this level of
activity on the first day.

Thanks,

Ron Glidden
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#24 From: "Michael Kladky" <kladkym@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 3:52 am
Subject: new member
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Greetings and salutations,
   My name is Michael Kladky. I don't play music professionally
anymore, but I always wanted to combine my interests in reenacting
(28 years) with music performance and theory (38 years). There never
was time for it before, between rehearsal, studio time, performances,
study and trying to make a living. Now, I work for a historic site as
an educator and museum tech.
  I'm not much for posting messages, but I wanted to introduce myself
to the list. I will be looking forward to learning even more about
music here. If I can be of any service, please don't hesitate. Until
then,
I am,
with respect,
Your most obedient servant,
M. Kladky

#23 From: "noonbuggy" <pawsfurme@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 3:35 am
Subject: newbie
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hiya.  I'm Bridget Graff from Md. Co Wayne's Liyght Inf. Corp
I've re-enacted for about 13 yrs (I'm 21) but I'm rather new to the
music scene.  I've been on and off fife for a couple of years but
finally took the music seriously enough to begin my male wardrobe (so
much more comfy *grin*).  I've been to maybe 2 events as a fifer so
far.  However, I've had a preference for drum, so I've begun that
too...it seems to be much easier for me.  Being a Horn player, you'd
think fife would be.  Is there a CD called "Be a Drummer" too? *grin*
  I've been told that there are a lot of books and manuscripts out with
an "artiscic license" point of view.
Anyone have input on finding GOOD American Rev. War drum stuff?  field
and duties, posture, hand positions, marching
techniques......basically any and every type of input.  Much appreciated.
Headbonks,
Bridget

#22 From: loyalist1776@...
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: new to the list
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In a message dated 6/2/2003 10:09:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ltroy@... writes:


IT's a lot easier to play!


thaTS the truth, even when the rains pouring down and its full of water ir still sounds good and still sounds just as good when being played in 100 degree weather in Pittsfield mass. I would trade it for anything. lol

#21 From: Laura Troy <Ltroy@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 2:07 am
Subject: Re: new to the list
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I also have a Healy 6-hole fife, which cost me nearly twice as much, and honestly, I like the Model F better.  :)  IT's a lot easier to play!
 
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In a message dated 6/2/2003 9:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ltroy@... writes:


Most of the fifers I know play the 6-hole Model F fife, which costs roughly $100.  You can find it at the above-mentioned website or even some sutlers carry it


I play a model F and I love it much more than my moms Ferrary. I also LOVE Peeler fifes. Ron Peeler does a good job with them and he makes them with the short ferrels


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#20 From: loyalist1776@...
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 9:56 pm
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In a message dated 6/2/2003 9:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ltroy@... writes:


Most of the fifers I know play the 6-hole Model F fife, which costs roughly $100.  You can find it at the above-mentioned website or even some sutlers carry it


I play a model F and I love it much more than my moms Ferrary. I also LOVE Peeler fifes. Ron Peeler does a good job with them and he makes them with the short ferrels

#19 From: Laura Troy <Ltroy@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:51 am
Subject: Re: new to the list
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Hi Jeffre,
 
Welcome to the list .. I think I can help you with your question on fifing.  There's a CD that I had, by Edmond Boyle - I think it's called "Be A Fifer" and you can get it through his website at www.beafifer.comI play the flute and piccolo, so I already had some idea on how to play.
 
Most of the fifers I know play the 6-hole Model F fife, which costs roughly $100.  You can find it at the above-mentioned website or even some sutlers carry it.
 
I hope this helps,
 
Laura Troy
 
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Subject: [18cMusic] new to the list

Good Evening,
 
I am new to the list and would like a little info on where to get information to teach yourself the fife as well as what would be a preferred (period correct) fife.  Thanks.
 
Jeffrey Overlin


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#18 From: loyalist1776@...
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: new member
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I can only play on the chanter so far, I don't have the endurence to play with drones.
Nicole

#17 From: "Jedediah Dahl" <jddahl@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:51 am
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Dear new liste,
 
    Some may know me, but for those who don't.  Here goes.
 
    My name is Jedediah Dahl, most call me Jed.  I am presently a student at the University of Tennessee, in Knoxville, studying history.  I have reenacted since 1998.  Started out doing minor drumming stuff, and decided to switch to musket.  Tossed the musket until 1999 or 2000.  The person who was in charge of my unit at the time was oblivious to my drumming talents, and when I announced to him I wanted to beat the drum for that one event, he never let me go back to musket.  *arg, drives me nuts to this day*.  Anywho, spent all of 2001 as a Drummer with Gordon's 60th RAR FnI unit, as well as the group at Fort Loudoun.  in 2k2.  I started talking with a revwar unit, the Royal North Carolina Provincial Regiment, lite infantry corp, and been playing with them quite a bit.  Don't do drumming in rev, and am trying to get away from it in FnI.
 
    Anyway, I spent the bulk of 2002 doing nothing but Drum research for the French and Indian war.  I am slowly doing some stuff on the Revwar, but have not gotten to motivated because I just don't have the interest to do so.  For those of you who care about FnI, ask away.  *Side note*  I am also the curator of a small group called, FnI_Musick.  It is a Yahoo group as well.  It was created to uniform and organize the music in the FnI war to a uniformed set of tunes.
 
A'ight, I guess I am done yacking.
 
Sincerely,
 
Jedediah

#16 From: "ummmm...." <john_howland@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:49 am
Subject: Re: new member
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--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, loyalist1776@a... wrote:
> I'm learning bagpipes from albany police pipes and drums :) u
should check
> out www.bagpipechat.com they have alot of like Gr. 1 pipers on
there :)
> Nicole
Thanks, I am interested in pipers who play 18th century tunes, and
have some documentation for them as well. Currently I am saving
nickles for a set made in the 18c style. With Ivory mounts, but
those might be a bit tricky to get.
john

#15 From: "ummmm...." <john_howland@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:46 am
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at Deep river. eom

#14 From: loyalist1776@...
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 9:44 pm
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I'm learning bagpipes from albany police pipes and drums :) u should check out www.bagpipechat.com they have alot of like Gr. 1 pipers on there :)
Nicole

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>AS for a fife, I would recommend a ferrary,

#12 From: "ummmm...." <john_howland@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:42 am
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Howdy, Iwould be glad to hear from any other pipers on the list.
john howland, piper
42d RHR Gr. Coy. (1776)

#11 From: "Jeffrey Overlin" <jubilant4@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:30 am
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Good Evening,
 
I am new to the list and would like a little info on where to get information to teach yourself the fife as well as what would be a preferred (period correct) fife.  Thanks.
 
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#10 From: "Nicole" <loyalist1776@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:27 am
Subject: And Once again one more new member
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Hey all, my names Nicole. I've been a fifer(i'm learning snare) for 4
years now(i'm 16). I re-enact rev war on both sides of the war, F&I,
and I am in 2 fife and drum corps. I am with the 13th Albany County
Milita in NY, the 84th 10th Co. RHE, Village Voult. Fife and Drum
Corps, and Sons and Daughters of Liberty Fife and Drum corps. I am
also the "owner" of the yahoo group FifeandDrum. I play at alot of
parades, re-enactments, and musters. Anyway, thats the basics, my mom
plays fife as well and my is learning snare. Nice to meet all of you
people. :)
~Nicole

#9 From: "Ron Glidden" <rglidden@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 12:31 am
Subject: Re: And Another New Member ...
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Welcome aboard Laura.  Your experienced advice to people even newer will
also be appreciated.

Ron Glidden


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Subject: [18cMusic] And Another New Member ...


> My name is Laura Troy and I'm a fifer with the 11th Pennsylvania
> Regiment (Rev War).  This is my third year in re-enacting - I've done
> artillery, a little bit of infantry, tried the distaff thing but it
> just didn't work out, and just started to do field music last year.
>
> I'm looking forward to learning from all the more experienced people
> in the group!
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#8 From: "Ron Glidden" <rglidden@...>
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Ron,

Your experience is most welcome on this list.  Your advice has served me
well in the past and we look forward to your input

Ron Glidden


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> Hello All . . .
>
> Thanks for the new list. Although I do not reenact, I am very
> involved in 18th century fife and drum music. My wife and I are known
> in our little corner of the world as the Continental Regiment Fife &
> Drum. We are very active with the SAR, DAR, and Ninety Six NHS in
> Ninety Six, South Carolina. I have been playing rudimental snare for
> some 39 years. I look forward to some interesting conversation . . .
>
> Please take the time to check out our website:
> http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd
>
> Also, I have a site devoted to the Drums & Colours of the British
> Regiments in North America during the French & Indian War and the
> American Revolution. Please visit:
> http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/drums.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron Aylor
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#7 From: "Ron Glidden" <rglidden@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 12:28 am
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Glad to have you aboard Drummer Amrstrong.  Good to know there will be some F&I as well as Rev War folks.  I had found even less on-line info for F&I (at least the British side) than I did for Rev War.  Maybe we can correct that.
 
Ron Glidden, Drummer
Whitcomb's Rangers (Rev War)
Hogan's Co., NY Provincials (F&I)
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Subject: [18cMusic] New member

I wanted to thank you for this new site and just say that I'm now a member.
 I'm the drummer for a Highland Unit that does both F&I as well as Rev War.
 Edward Strong
a.k.a. Drummer Edward Armstrong
D/M of the 77th Reg't of foot "Montgomery's Highlanders" (F&I)
and Drummer of the 42nd RHR "Black Watch" (Rev War)


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#6 From: "Laura Troy" <lautro03@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 12:08 am
Subject: And Another New Member ...
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My name is Laura Troy and I'm a fifer with the 11th Pennsylvania
Regiment (Rev War).  This is my third year in re-enacting - I've done
artillery, a little bit of infantry, tried the distaff thing but it
just didn't work out, and just started to do field music last year.

I'm looking forward to learning from all the more experienced people
in the group!

#5 From: "Ron Aylor" <ronaylor@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 11:08 pm
Subject: Yet another New Member . . . .
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Hello All . . .

Thanks for the new list. Although I do not reenact, I am very
involved in 18th century fife and drum music. My wife and I are known
in our little corner of the world as the Continental Regiment Fife &
Drum. We are very active with the SAR, DAR, and Ninety Six NHS in
Ninety Six, South Carolina. I have been playing rudimental snare for
some 39 years. I look forward to some interesting conversation . . .

Please take the time to check out our website:
http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd

Also, I have a site devoted to the Drums & Colours of the British
Regiments in North America during the French & Indian War and the
American Revolution. Please visit:
http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/drums.htm

Regards,

Ron Aylor

#4 From: "Ron Aylor" <ronaylor@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 11:07 pm
Subject: Yet another New Member . . . .
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Hello All . . .

Thanks for the new list. Although I do not reenact, I am very
involved in 18th century fife and drum music. My wife and I are known
in our little corner of the world as the Continental Regiment Fife &
Drum. We are very active with the SAR, DAR, and Ninety Six NHS in
Ninety Six, South Carolina. I have been playing rudimental snare for
some 39 years. I look forward to some interesting conversation . . .

Please take the time to check out our website:
http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd

Also, I have a site devoted to the Drums & Colours of the British
Regiments in North America during the French & Indian War and the
American Revolution. Please visit:
http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/drums.htm

Regards,

Ron Aylor

#3 From: "Barb and Ed " <bestrong@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 10:50 pm
Subject: New member
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I wanted to thank you for this new site and just say that I'm now a member.
 I'm the drummer for a Highland Unit that does both F&I as well as Rev War.
 Edward Strong
a.k.a. Drummer Edward Armstrong
D/M of the 77th Reg't of foot "Montgomery's Highlanders" (F&I)
and Drummer of the 42nd RHR "Black Watch" (Rev War)

#2 From: "berkshire1777" <rglidden@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 10:22 pm
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Lt.,

Welcome, and congrats on being the first to post a message!

We hope your drummer will join and we promise to exchange only
musical infomration.  We will make every effort not to skulk around
trying to learn tactical plans we may use to the Continental
advantage<g>.

Ron Glidden, Drummer
Whitcomb's Rangers



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> not a musician but I am here to keep an eye on my drummer. I know
> that sooner or later he will join.

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My name is Dan McMahon AKA Lt. Campbell of the 42d Grenadiers. I am
not a musician but I am here to keep an eye on my drummer. I know
that sooner or later he will join.

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