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#5124 From: drumr1776@...
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 1:18 am
Subject: Re: Christmas book sale special offer
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From: "ravenman" <eagletalontrader@...>
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:02:57 -0000
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Subject: [18cMusic] Christmas book sale special offer

 

Hi all,
Here is a list of the remaining books I have this fall/winter. My offer to you for the Christmas season is for orders over $75.00, I will ship by media mail to you for free. For orders over $100.00, I will give a 10% discount as well as free media mail shipping. For orders over $150.00, I will give a 20% discount as well as free media mail shipping. It isn't hard with a couple of these great books to reach those discounts. I accept money orders, checks, or Paypal- which would be great if you want to have them by Christmas for presents.

American Heritage- The Revolution- HB- (1)- 25.00
The Indian Captivity of OM Spenser- PB- (2)- 10.00
Colorful Characters- a Study of Paint Schemes and Colors of the Woodland Indians- PB- (10)- 10.00
Their Bearing is Noble & Proud Vol 1- PB- (2)- 20.00
Their Bearing is Noble & Proud Vol 2- PB- (4)- 20.00
The Prairie by JF Cooper- HB- (1)- 10.00
Dispossessing the American Indian- Wilbur Jacobs- PB- (1)- 12.00
Exploring the American West- PB- (1)- 6.00
The Book of the Continental Soldier by Harold Peterson- HB- (2)- 20.00
Joseph Brant- Man of Two Worlds- PB- (1)- 25.00
Militiamen, Rangers, and Redcoats- HB- (1)- 34.00
Pirate’s Who’s Who- PB- (1)- 22.00
A Selection Of Some Of The Most Interesting Narratives Of Outrages Committed By The Indians In Their Wars With The White People- Loudon- HB- (6)- 40.00
John Adams and the American Revolution- HB- (1)- 10.00
Peter Kalm’s Travels in North America 2 in 1 Volume- PB- (2)- 55.00
Thirty Thousand Miles w/ John Heckewelder- HB- (1)- 49.95
Revolution Remembered- John C Dann- HB- (5)- 20.00
Our Revolutionary Forefathers- HB- (1)- 25.00
Your Fyre Shall Burn No More- PB- (2)- 19.95
Travels of William Bartram- PB- (3)- 12.00
History of the American Indian- James Adair- HB- (1)- 35.00
The Iroquois- PB- (2)- 9.95
Iroquois Wampum Belts- PB- (2)- 6.95
The Unredeemed Captive- HB- (1)- 10.00
Mohawk Baronet- Sir William Johnson- HB- (3)- 25.00
America’s Beginnings- Nat Geographic- HB- (1)- 10.00
American Indian Lacrosse- Little Brother of War- PB- (2)- 20.00
Death & ReBirth of the Senecas- PB- (1)- 8.00
Doctor’s Secret Journal- Michilimackinac- PB- (1)- 11.00
The Huron- Framers of the North- PB- (2)- 20.00
History, Manners, & Customs- Heckewelder- HB- (5)- 30.00
History of Playing Cards- Hargrave- PB- (1)- 25.00
Yorktown Campaign & Surrender of Cornwallis- HB- (2)- 10.00
Clues to American Past- (1)- 11.50
In Mohawk Country- PB- (1)- 18.00
Journal of Major George Washington- HB- (2)- 12.00
Trade Ornament Usage of the Native Peoples of Canada- PB- (2)- 35.00
Bo’Jou Neejee- PB- (1)- 100.00
Wilderness Politics & Indian Gifts- Wilbur Jacobs- PB- (3)- 15.00
Under the Black Flag- Cordingly- PB- (4)- 10.00
Johnson of the Mohawk- Arthur Pound- HB- (1)- 25.00
Taschen- Fashion- the Kyoto Fashion Museum Collection- PB- (1)- 14.00
Eagle of Niagara- the Story of David Harper- HB- (1)- 17.00
Memoirs of Pierre Pouchot- HB- (1)- 65.00
National Geographics- The Revolutionary War- HB- (1)- 10.00
The Revolutionary Frontier- 1763-1783- Jack Sosin- HB- (1)- 16.00
Lord of the Mohawks- Sir William Johnson- James T. Flexner- HB- (2)- 20.00
Playing Cards- Roger Tilley- (1)- 15.00
At the Crossroads- Indian & Empires- PB- (1)- 16.00
Indian Country- Matthiessen- HB- (1)- 5.00
Massacre at Mackinac- 1763- PB- (1)- 10.00
James Wolfe- Man & Soldier- HB- (1)- 20.00
The Art of the Woodland Indians- Glubok- HB- (1)- 22.00
Traditional Indian Bead & Leather Crafts- PB- (1)- 10.00
Sketchbook ’56- Highlanders & Provincial Rangers- PB- (1)- 10.00
Distaff Sketchbook- PB- (1)- 10.00
Voyageur Sketchbook- PB- (1)- 10.00

Please contact me off list at eagletalontrader@hotmail.com if you are interested in any of these items. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Brandon Scott


#5123 From: "ravenman" <eagletalontrader@...>
Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 3:02 am
Subject: Christmas book sale special offer
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Hi all,
Here is a list of the remaining books I have this fall/winter.  My offer to you
for the Christmas season is for orders over $75.00, I will ship by media mail to
you for free.  For orders over $100.00, I will give a 10% discount as well as
free media mail shipping.  For orders over $150.00, I will give a 20% discount
as well as free media mail shipping.  It isn't hard with a couple of these great
books to reach those discounts.  I accept money orders, checks, or Paypal- which
would be great if you want to have them by Christmas for presents.

American Heritage- The Revolution- HB- (1)- 25.00
The Indian Captivity of OM Spenser- PB- (2)- 10.00
Colorful Characters- a Study of Paint Schemes and Colors of the Woodland
Indians- PB- (10)- 10.00
Their Bearing is Noble & Proud Vol 1- PB- (2)- 20.00
Their Bearing is Noble & Proud Vol 2- PB- (4)- 20.00
The Prairie by JF Cooper- HB- (1)- 10.00
Dispossessing the American Indian- Wilbur Jacobs- PB- (1)- 12.00
Exploring the American West- PB- (1)- 6.00
The Book of the Continental Soldier by Harold Peterson- HB- (2)- 20.00
Joseph Brant- Man of Two Worlds- PB- (1)- 25.00
Militiamen, Rangers, and Redcoats- HB- (1)- 34.00
Pirate’s Who’s Who- PB- (1)- 22.00
A Selection Of Some Of The Most Interesting Narratives Of Outrages Committed By
The Indians In Their Wars With The White People- Loudon- HB- (6)- 40.00
John Adams and the American Revolution- HB- (1)- 10.00
Peter Kalm’s Travels in North America 2 in 1 Volume- PB- (2)- 55.00
Thirty Thousand Miles w/ John Heckewelder- HB- (1)- 49.95
Revolution Remembered- John C Dann- HB- (5)- 20.00
Our Revolutionary Forefathers- HB- (1)- 25.00
Your Fyre Shall Burn No More- PB- (2)- 19.95
Travels of William Bartram- PB- (3)- 12.00
History of the American Indian- James Adair- HB- (1)- 35.00
The Iroquois- PB- (2)- 9.95
Iroquois Wampum Belts- PB- (2)- 6.95
The Unredeemed Captive- HB- (1)- 10.00
Mohawk Baronet- Sir William Johnson- HB- (3)- 25.00
America’s Beginnings- Nat Geographic- HB- (1)- 10.00
American Indian Lacrosse- Little Brother of War- PB- (2)- 20.00
Death & ReBirth of the Senecas- PB- (1)- 8.00
Doctor’s Secret Journal- Michilimackinac- PB- (1)- 11.00
The Huron- Framers of the North- PB- (2)- 20.00
History, Manners, & Customs- Heckewelder- HB- (5)- 30.00
History of Playing Cards- Hargrave- PB- (1)- 25.00
Yorktown Campaign & Surrender of Cornwallis- HB- (2)- 10.00
Clues to American Past- (1)- 11.50
In Mohawk Country- PB- (1)- 18.00
Journal of Major George Washington- HB- (2)- 12.00
Trade Ornament Usage of the Native Peoples of Canada- PB- (2)- 35.00
Bo’Jou Neejee- PB- (1)- 100.00
Wilderness Politics & Indian Gifts- Wilbur Jacobs- PB- (3)- 15.00
Under the Black Flag- Cordingly- PB- (4)- 10.00
Johnson of the Mohawk- Arthur Pound- HB- (1)- 25.00
Taschen- Fashion- the Kyoto Fashion Museum Collection- PB- (1)- 14.00
Eagle of Niagara- the Story of David Harper- HB- (1)- 17.00
Memoirs of Pierre Pouchot- HB- (1)- 65.00
National Geographics- The Revolutionary War- HB- (1)- 10.00
The Revolutionary Frontier- 1763-1783- Jack Sosin- HB- (1)- 16.00
Lord of the Mohawks- Sir William Johnson- James T. Flexner- HB- (2)- 20.00
Playing Cards- Roger Tilley- (1)- 15.00
At the Crossroads- Indian & Empires- PB- (1)- 16.00
Indian Country- Matthiessen- HB- (1)- 5.00
Massacre at Mackinac- 1763- PB- (1)- 10.00
James Wolfe- Man & Soldier- HB- (1)- 20.00
The Art of the Woodland Indians- Glubok- HB- (1)- 22.00
Traditional Indian Bead & Leather Crafts- PB- (1)- 10.00
Sketchbook ’56- Highlanders & Provincial Rangers- PB- (1)- 10.00
Distaff Sketchbook- PB- (1)- 10.00
Voyageur Sketchbook- PB- (1)- 10.00

Please contact me off list at eagletalontrader@... if you are interested
in any of these items.  Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Brandon Scott

#5122 From: Cecelia Messier <cece_alligatorlover@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:51 pm
Subject: The Governor Trumbull House has a NEW website
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Check it out!
 
Great pictures, a calendar of events, directions, information galore and a special piece on our new sleigh!  Live today!
 


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#5121 From: "danieloconnell" <todanieloconnell@...>
Date: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:08 pm
Subject: Autumn Social: more information
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Invitation:

October 25th, Northville Michigan, Autumn Social hosted by King's 8th  Regiment

Cider, Donuts, Pie, Cheeses, Meats, Fencing and Fencing Lessons, Hat
  re-blocking and pipeclaying. Now that's a combination!

  Anyone wishing to attend RSVP to:   ToDanielOConnell@...
  more information.

We are having a 'social' with fall foods/refreshments at the Cady Inn in Mill
Race Historical Village. The Historical Village is in downtown Northville
Michigan at 215 Griswold. A simple map search for "215 Griswold, Northville
Michigan 48167" will provide you with directions.

This is not a reenactor 'event' but it is a social for reenactors and sponsored
by our King's 8th Regiment www.kings8th.com. If you go to our website you'll see
a picture of the Cady Inn on our "monthly meeting' link.

We are not dressing in period clothing although anyone attending can dress as
they wish and if they feel comfortable in period clothing that's great.

Hours of our social are strictly between 11am and 4pm. It's a appreciated if
most people arrive after 11am and before 1pm as we begin to wind down about 3pm.

The Cady has a wood burning fireplace, weather permitting we'll have fencing
practice, there will be a steamer and hat block for refurbishing cocked hats,
autumn refreshments and good company.

It's important that people attending RSVP and let us know the number of people
they are attending/bringing as a courtesy to our shopping for our guests and
having enough refreshment. Likewise, please don't say you are attending and not
showing as we don't want to waste food.

This is about all the information we have other than you'll have a great time.

Don't forget to RSVP with numbers.

Daniel O'Connell
www.kings8th.com

#5120 From: "John Thornton" <jt@...>
Date: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:04 am
Subject: The British Night Watch, December 4-6 St. Augustine, Florida
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The British Night Watch
Friday December 4th to Sunday, December 6th 2009
St. Augustine, Florida

Vol. XXXV, Issue 2
October 2009



October is here, the weather is getting cooler, and thoughts turn to a
Winter Break in Florida!
Registration numbers are pretty good so far, with over 100 pre-registered,
and over 25% are first time attenders! Expected turnout could top last year,
which hit nearly 400 participants.

Are You and Yours registered yet? Visit the website and sign up now at
http://www.britishnightwatch.org/Participant.htm registration is on the top
left. Unit Commanders and Adjutants, please forward this email to your
members, to allow them the chance to register for this event. If you have
received this email as a forward, contact me here <mailto:jt@...> to
add (or remove)  you on the master email list.

The strong registration numbers of new folks suggest we should give a basic
"What should I expect" paragraph. The website www.britishnightwatch.org has
nearly every question already answered, so spend some time cruising through
the site, and contact us if you still want more answers, we're here to help.

         So, you're thinking about a Florida Reenactment. December is
probably the best time to do go- the weather is nice, with normal lows in
the 50's, and highs in the 70's- good weather for wearing what we wear. Now,
this event is kinda different from most Rev War events out there. To those
that camp, we camp in a restored area of a nearly 450 year old city, across
from the oldest and largest masonry Fort in the continental U.S., and while
camp is a little tight, we manage to fit in pretty well. For those that
wish, shopping, dining, and hotels are close, with much in walking distance
to camp. I've been told by those more experienced than myself that there are
7 bars within crawling distance of our camping area as well. (And at least
as many Churches!)
         "My portrayal is not British" you say?  Either Whigs or Tories are
welcome; our dress requirements are Colonial, 1763-1783, the British Period
of Florida, and  include any civilian colonial dress appropriate to the time
period in the colonies, not just Redcoats, Hessians & Provincials.
         Remember I said this event was different? There are plenty of things
you can do on the schedule, or you can skip some if you'd like time to
sightsee, tour the Fort, or just enjoy the event! Our big request is that
you are on line at formation of the Parade Saturday Night. This Torchlit
parade, led by massed fifes & drums through the historic streets is a one of
a kind experience. Crowds numbering about 10,000 watch the parade, while
hundreds and hundreds of others follow behind.
         Don't bring Black Powder, as some of our program take place on NPS
or City property- we'll issue you cartridges for any firings we do, and for
the Volley followng the Parade...  , Do bring your Firelock though for the
Volleys.
         See a complete schedule at
http://www.britishnightwatch.org/Participant.htm
         The event officially starts Friday afternoon, but if you can't make
it then, again no problem- plenty are there early Friday for the scenario,
which has been a bit of fun these past couple of years.  Sunday is a travel
day, with only a Church service on the schedule, so you can break down when
you wish, or use the time to visit the area and the beaches.

For 2009, the biggest changes are a concert Friday Night at 8:00, with
national recording artists Father, Son, and Friends; The Garden Party  has
dropped it's Tea, to become a more participatory Dance  (Music by POOKA) ;
The Friday Afternoon Scenario continues this year with "Army or Navy?-
Desertion in the 18th Century" in camp at 4:00 pm, and we continue to
improve the Participation in the Parade.

This years Commemorative Coin is the 1787 Six Pence, and is given at Pay
Call in the Fort Program Saturday Afternoon. See the website for details on
the Commemorative Coins.

The website also has all the latest information on Hotel Discounts for
participants, safety guidelines, previous newsletters, and a host of
information for the participant and the visitor.
www.britishnightwatch.org
Even more updates to the website will occur over the weekend, so check back!

We still need a few volunteers to take a 1 hour post at the Ambassador's
Table, open times are between Noon and 4 p.m. on Saturday. The job is easy,
interfacing with the public, fielding questions such as "where are the
bathrooms?" and passing out schedules. You won't be far from experienced
help, so have no fear!  Contact Anthea Manny at ascfpinc@... to help
with this project.


On behalf of the Committee for the Night Watch,
I remain,
John Thornton, Board Member, Committee for the Night Watch
www.britishnightwatch.org

#5119 From: whchappelle@...
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Cooperman drum for sale
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Price reduced to $425 or best offer. Photo attached.

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#5118 From: "whc303" <whchappelle@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:18 pm
Subject: Cooperman drum for sale
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Hello List,

I have a Cooperman drum for sale.

16" x 12" shell

$500

I will replace plastic heads with calfskin for an additional $100.

Photos available upon request

Please contact me via email at whchappelle@... if interested.

Thanks,

Will

#5117 From: "secondvaregt" <todd.post2@...>
Date: Thu Oct 1, 2009 9:15 pm
Subject: Video Blog on Fifes by 2d Virginia Regiment Member Steve Dillon
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2d Virginia Regiment Member Steve Dillon recently posted a video blog featuring
his research on Revolutionary War era fifes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2gXre8i_hA

Also, check out his web page at:
http://www.dillonmusic.com/historic_fifes/historic_fifes.html

Cheers,
Todd Post
2d Virginia Regiment
www.secondvirginia.org

"The heroism and gallantry of the second Virginia regiment I cannot help
particularly mentioning; they would do honour to any country in the world. It is
universally believed they behaved the best of any troops in the field."
-- Virginia Gazette, October 17, 1777

http://www.facebook.com/SecondVirginia
http://www.twitter.com/SecondVirginia
http://www.youtube.com/2dVirginiaRegiment
http://www.flickr.com/photos/SecondVirginia

#5116 From: "jkrause365" <jkrause365@...>
Date: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Scotch Repeat
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--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, "biggest_plume" <drums1812@...> wrote:
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> Jim do you mean it is found in the Longman & Broderip manuscript? Is that the
one also called the young drummer's assistant?
> Ross

I was thinking of "Compleat Instructions for the Fife" by Longman & Broderip. 
The tune I was thinking of is also in a similarly titled fife book by J.
Goulding.  In these two, and Ashworth as well this tune is in G.

I wonder however if you're thinking of a fife melody in Ashworth written in the
key of D he calls "The Scotch Repeat."  So far, I haven't seen this melody
anywhere but Ashworth.  Have you asked Sue Cifaldi?  She may know.

Jim Krause

#5115 From: "biggest_plume" <drums1812@...>
Date: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Scotch Repeat
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Jim do you mean it is found in the Longman & Broderip manuscript? Is that the
one also called the young drummer's assistant?
Ross

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jkrause365" <jkrause365@...> wrote:
>
> --- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, "biggest_plume" <drums1812@> wrote:
> >
> > I apologize if I have asked this before but I am still trying to find the
origins of the Scotch Repeat and if it was ever part of the British duty?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Ross
> >
> Because it was tucked away with the rest of the music under the title "The
Scotch Duty" in Longman & Broderip, I concluded that it was not played in
English regiments.  Incomplete scholarship, I admit.  The question never
occurred to me until now.
>
> JimK
>

#5114 From: "jkrause365" <jkrause365@...>
Date: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: Scotch Repeat
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--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, "biggest_plume" <drums1812@...> wrote:
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> I apologize if I have asked this before but I am still trying to find the
origins of the Scotch Repeat and if it was ever part of the British duty?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ross
>
Because it was tucked away with the rest of the music under the title "The
Scotch Duty" in Longman & Broderip, I concluded that it was not played in
English regiments.  Incomplete scholarship, I admit.  The question never
occurred to me until now.

JimK

#5113 From: Cecelia Messier <cece_alligatorlover@...>
Date: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:11 am
Subject: Special Event at the CTDAR Governor Trumbull House & Wadsworth Stable
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Lebanon

 

Tag Sale & Craft Fair, Sat., October 10, 2009

 

Tag Sale & Craft Fair, 10am – 4pm, CTDAR Governor Jonathan Trumbull House, 169 West Town Street, Lebanon.

TheCTDAR Governor Jonathan Trumbull House, 169 West Town Street, Lebanon, CT will hold their 2nd Annual Tag Sale and Craft Fair Saturday October 10, on the grounds of the Governor Jonathan Trumbull House.  Tag Sales, Charity Fund Raisers, and Crafters from all centuries can set up for a donation of $15.00 for a lawn site, and $25.00 for a very limited number of sites inside the Wadsworth Stable.  Reservations are recommended.

 

For additional information, please contact 860-429-7194 or FaithTrumbull2@...

 

Site fees to benefit the 300th Birthday Celebration of Governor Jonathan Trumbull, CT's own Patriot Governor

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#5112 From: Mark McClain <pissclam99@...>
Date: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: RE: Scotch Repeat
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According to legend the Scotch Repeat first happened
when one Ewan Mcleod ate to much haggis and barley water.

Sorry in advance

Mark McClain 3rd NY


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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:10:38 +0000
Subject: [18cMusic] Scotch Repeat

 
I apologize if I have asked this before but I am still trying to find the origins of the Scotch Repeat and if it was ever part of the British duty?

Thanks in advance

Ross




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#5111 From: "biggest_plume" <drums1812@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:10 pm
Subject: Scotch Repeat
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I apologize if I have asked this before but I am still trying to find the
origins of the Scotch Repeat and if it was ever part of the British duty?

Thanks in advance

Ross

#5110 From: "britbrig8th" <todanieloconnell@...>
Date: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Diversion in Song
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#5109 From: "cprljohnivey" <CprlJohnIvey@...>
Date: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:58 pm
Subject: Braddock Monument re-dedication ceremony Oct 11, Frederick MD.
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Looking for a couple drummers and fifers that live within a driveable distance
from Frederick, MD who may be able to do an F&I ceremony to re-dedicate the
Braddock Monument on Oct. 11th.

Please contact me at bradford.ireland@smithbarney if you are interested.

Thanks,

Brad Ireland

#5108 From: "John Thornton" <jt@...>
Date: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: British NightWatch News December 4-6 2009
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The British Night Watch
Friday December 4th to Sunday, December 6th 2009
St. Augustine, Florida


Registration is Now Open!  For 2009, we've done away with Unit
registrations, as Individual Electronic Registration has proved to be most
accurate, and easiest for the reenactor as well! The website
http://www.britishnightwatch.org has the latest in event information, and
will be updated weekly from now until December 4th.   We ask that each
person, 16 or older attending the event, please Register at
http://britishnightwatch.org/Participant.htm   Unit Commanders and
Adjutants, please forward this email to your members, to allow them the
chance to register for this event. If you have received this email as a
forward, contact me here <mailto:jt@...> to add (or remove)  you on the
master email list.

Event Photos from 2008 are located at
http://www.britishnightwatch.org/2008_gallery.htm, the entire website has
had an overhaul, the schedule has been posted, and we have some great deals
on Hotel rooms for the event.

As of today, the Roadway Inn, 2800 N Ponce De Leon Blvd , Saint Augustine,
FL, US, 32084 | Phone: (904) 829-6581, has offered rooms for $51.67, TAX
INCLUDED. Mention that you are reserving for the British Night Watch. More
Hotel deals are being confirmed, and will be posted on the website when
available.

We listen to your opinions. Remember to give us feedback after the event, to
continuously improve!
For 2009, the biggest changes are a concert Friday Night at 8:00, with
national recording artists Father, Son, and Friends; The Garden Party  has
dropped it's Tea, to become a more participatory Dance; The Friday Afternoon
Scenario continues this year with "Army or Navy?- Desertion in the 18th
Century" in camp at 4:00 pm, and we continue to improve the Participation in
the Parade.
Please visit the website <http://www.britishnightwatch.org/>  and let us
know if you see errors, confusion, multi-colored flying elephants, or
similar.

Call for Volunteers!  We've decided to recruit a Friends group, to work in a
variety of aspects for the British Night Watch. The group would be comprised
of volunteers, working with a coordinator, and perform such duties as
fundraising, logistics, organization, event support, research &
documentation, and such related. Would you be interested? Duties could
consume as little as an hour a month, or half of your life, like some of us.
Contact me at jt@... if this opportunity would interest you.


On behalf of the Committee for the Night Watch,
I remain,
John Thornton, Board Member, Committee for the Night Watch
www.britishnightwatch.org

#5107 From: ApprovedWorkmanS <approvedworkmans@...>
Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:00 pm
Subject: Re: drum sale
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On 8/27/09 4:24 PM, "Ron Glidden" <drumr1776@...> wrote:

Hi Ron,

This is Allen Workman. Our family met & played with you and Sue at Drummer’s Call the year before last.
I’m sorry we didn’t get to play this year. Please tell Sue “Hi” for us. I’d be interested in seeing some picture
of your drum, if it is still available. Was it the one you played at Williamsburg that year? We still have those
blue drums that were made from modern toms but haven’t saved for Coopermans, yet. We aren’t exactly
starters but could use a little better drum. Do you think your drum might fit the bill? Maybe we’ll get to do
Drummer’s Call next year and we hope to see you soon.

Allen & Family
Katy, Kaleigh & Adrian
 
 

Dear List,
 
Although I hate to place items for sale here, I thought this item would be appropriate before it goes to EBay.
 
I have a drum I purchased from Ray Hauly back in 2000 as a "starter drum" for reenacting.  No-name brand, probably Pakistani.  It originally had a large eagle painted on the front and had a terrible sounding calfskin head w/o muffler.  I think I paid over $300 for it at the time, then spent another $200 at Cooprmans to replace the heads, snares, and rope, and stripped off the paint and refinished it.  
 
Several Cooperman drum purchases later and a switch to the fife, and this drum is now serving as a decoration in my living room.  Thought it might be of interest to someone who has kids reenacting who are not sure if they want to spend money on a Copperman yet.
 
Asking $200 plus shipping.  Pictures available on request.
 
Thanks,
 
Ron Glidden

    
 

#5106 From: Ron Glidden <drumr1776@...>
Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:24 pm
Subject: drum sale
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Dear List,
 
Although I hate to place items for sale here, I thought this item would be appropriate before it goes to EBay.
 
I have a drum I purchased from Ray Hauly back in 2000 as a "starter drum" for reenacting.  No-name brand, probably Pakistani.  It originally had a large eagle painted on the front and had a terrible sounding calfskin head w/o muffler.  I think I paid over $300 for it at the time, then spent another $200 at Cooprmans to replace the heads, snares, and rope, and stripped off the paint and refinished it.  
 
Several Cooperman drum purchases later and a switch to the fife, and this drum is now serving as a decoration in my living room.  Thought it might be of interest to someone who has kids reenacting who are not sure if they want to spend money on a Copperman yet.
 
Asking $200 plus shipping.  Pictures available on request.
 
Thanks,
 
Ron Glidden

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#5105 From: Benjamin Ruesch <coaststarlight91@...>
Date: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:41 am
Subject: Interesting Video
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Hi folks, I was perusing Youtube, and I found this video made by Steve Dillon. Interesting collection of fifes! Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2gXre8i_hA

--
Benjamin Ruesch
Middlesex County Volunteers Fifes and Drums
Massachusetts

#5104 From: Brent McLaren <listmail@...>
Date: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: a little help
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One has to remember that the British banned the playing of drums in "Scottish style" in the 1750's. They also banned the playing of pipes and drums together: a ban that lasted "officially" for nearly 150 years.

Clearly records from the "colonies" show that regiments played bagpipes, bugles and a whole list of unapproved tunes. The use of "Johnny Cope" as a regimental reveille is well documented and persists even to this day,.

There are legends of the 78th Scottish Highlanders refusing to enter into battle until the pipes and drums were heard ... a practice that Wolfe himself had to give in to.

What happened officially, and what happened actually may not be the same at all. This means that the books that are available may only tell part of the story. The regimental inventories show bass drums ... the music doesn't ... hmmm.

Considering that a "British" regiment may have been 1/2 from the Highlands and 1/2 from Germany ... or 3/4 French ... or entirely Swiss and that they brought their instruments, songs, traditions and music with them ... one may have to broaden their understanding.

I love the references to the bugles striking up "The Girl I Left Behind Me" ... must have had talent we don't see today.

Brent

Brent McLaren
Town Crier for Perth Ontario
"The Prettiest Town in Ontario"
http://perthtowncrier.com/blog


Brad Ireland wrote:
 

Thanks for the help!

Brad

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, clichack@... wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. ?Potter is certainly valuable for interpreting some of the 1780 drum notation.?
>
>
>
> Erik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drums1812@...
> To: 18cmusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 3:00 pm
> Subject: RE: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Agree with your interpretation Eric
> In Potter's British manual from a slightly later period (1815/16/17 depending on various sources) he also lays out the Troop in a similar manner as the 1789 manuscript
>
>
>
>
> R
> Drum Major www.drums1812.org
>
>
>
>
> ?
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> From: clichack@...
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:07:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> ?
>
> Gary and I were actually talking about Singling and Doubling a couple of weeks ago at Crown Point.? In the c. 1780 Drum Beating MS (very similair to Longman and Broderip with some slight variations of drum beatings and extra material), it says for Troop:
>
> ?
>
> Rising to be beat once over.
>
> Singling to be beat as often over as you please.
>
> Doubling Ditto.
>
> Breaking off once over.
>
> ?
>
> Longman and Broderip's version of this is more complicated.
>
> ?
>
> In eighteenth century music, "double" could sometimes be seen meaning a varitation.? Maybe singling and doubling got their names from that?? The tattoo is also comprised of singling and doubling beatings.? In my opinion, singling and doubling don't have any distinct purpose besides comprising the troop, other than to provide musical interest.? For troop, it seems like a number of?singling tunes could have been played while the drummers beat.? Then they could switch to the doubling tunes.?
>
> ?
>
> Erik Lichack
>
> Fife Major, BAR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:55 am
> Subject: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Thanks so much for your responce. I believe I have both the tutors you cited (Being at work, I believe I got the dates wrong). Being very new to this, can you explain to me what exactly does Singlings and Doublings mean? Alos, are there multiple versions of Roast Beef to be found in Fifeanddrum.org or will just about any version I find on there be appropriate? The BAR book is on my wish list, as soon as my income improves with the economy/markets.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Brad
>
> --- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, fifemajor22@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Brad,
> >
> >
> >
> > The earliest source for English and Scottish Camp Duties is Rutherfoords Fife Tutor, which was published circa 1756.? Thompson & Son published the next Fife Tutor in 1759, and it is essentially a copy of Rutherfoord.
> >
> >
> >
> > Both of these tutors include the English Duty and the Scotch Duty tunes for the fife:
> >
> >
> >
> > Reveilly
> >
> > General
> >
> > Drummers Call
> >
> > Retreat
> >
> > Taptoo
> >
> >
> >
> > They both include various troops, doublings, singlings, etc.? It is unclear what singlings and doublings were used for other than being associated with the Troop.? The Troop's purpose was to assemble the men and inspect.? Troop or Assembly may have been another singling of the troop because most singlings are in 3/8 time; while doublings are in 2/4 time.
> >
> >
> >
> > The tune used for provisions was the Roast Beef, but this is not in these tutors.
> >
> >
> >
> > The new BAR book lists all of these camp duties, and they are appropriate for French and Indian
> > War period.? The drum parts are from a circa 1780 source (Longman and Broderip) which is the earliest known source for the drum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, copies of the original fife tutors are available from Ray Hauley.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Vorwald
> >
> > Fife Major
> >
> > 22nd Regiment
> >
> > BAR Inspector of Music 1987 - 2004
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@>
> > To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:23 am
> > Subject: [18cMusic] Wanted: a little help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking for English Duty Camp/Duty calls for F&I era for the fife. I got musicians calls and rev. and taptoo. What I am looking for is meal calls, officer calls, fatigue calls, etc... The two 1740-50's manuals that I have don't list them. All they list is several different versions of troop and doublings. I am very new to this so if you can shed some light for me I'd appreciate this. Are these online someplace? Is the new BAR book that came out that says it has these calls appropriate for F&I era? Inquiring minds want to know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brad
> >
>


#5103 From: "Brad Ireland" <CprlJohnIvey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: a little help
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Thanks for the help!

Brad

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, clichack@... wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. ?Potter is certainly valuable for interpreting some of the 1780 drum
notation.?
>
>
>
> Erik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drums1812@...
> To: 18cmusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 3:00 pm
> Subject: RE: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Agree with your interpretation Eric
> In Potter's British manual from a slightly later period (1815/16/17 depending
on various sources) he also lays out the Troop in a similar manner as the 1789
manuscript
>
>
>
>
> R
> Drum Major www.drums1812.org
>
>
>
>
> ?
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> From: clichack@...
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:07:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> ?
>
> Gary and I were actually talking about Singling and Doubling a couple of weeks
ago at Crown Point.? In the c. 1780 Drum Beating MS (very similair to Longman
and Broderip with some slight variations of drum beatings and extra material),
it says for Troop:
>
> ?
>
> Rising to be beat once over.
>
> Singling to be beat as often over as you please.
>
> Doubling Ditto.
>
> Breaking off once over.
>
> ?
>
> Longman and Broderip's version of this is more complicated.
>
> ?
>
> In eighteenth century music, "double" could sometimes be seen meaning a
varitation.? Maybe singling and doubling got their names from that?? The tattoo
is also comprised of singling and doubling beatings.? In my opinion, singling
and doubling don't have any distinct purpose besides comprising the troop, other
than to provide musical interest.? For troop, it seems like a number of?singling
tunes could have been played while the drummers beat.? Then they could switch to
the doubling tunes.?
>
> ?
>
> Erik Lichack
>
> Fife Major, BAR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:55 am
> Subject: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Thanks so much for your responce. I believe I have both the tutors you cited
(Being at work, I believe I got the dates wrong). Being very new to this, can
you explain to me what exactly does Singlings and Doublings mean? Alos, are
there multiple versions of Roast Beef to be found in Fifeanddrum.org or will
just about any version I find on there be appropriate? The BAR book is on my
wish list, as soon as my income improves with the economy/markets.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Brad
>
> --- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, fifemajor22@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Brad,
> >
> >
> >
> > The earliest source for English and Scottish Camp Duties is Rutherfoords
Fife Tutor, which was published circa 1756.? Thompson & Son published the next
Fife Tutor in 1759, and it is essentially a copy of Rutherfoord.
> >
> >
> >
> > Both of these tutors include the English Duty and the Scotch Duty tunes for
the fife:
> >
> >
> >
> > Reveilly
> >
> > General
> >
> > Drummers Call
> >
> > Retreat
> >
> > Taptoo
> >
> >
> >
> > They both include various troops, doublings, singlings, etc.? It is unclear
what singlings and doublings were used for other than being associated with the
Troop.? The Troop's purpose was to assemble the men and inspect.? Troop or
Assembly may have been another singling of the troop because most singlings are
in 3/8 time; while doublings are in 2/4 time.
> >
> >
> >
> > The tune used for provisions was the Roast Beef, but this is not in these
tutors.
> >
> >
> >
> > The new BAR book lists all of these camp duties, and they are appropriate
for French and Indian
> > War period.? The drum parts are from a circa 1780 source (Longman and
Broderip) which is the earliest known source for the drum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, copies of the original fife tutors are available from Ray Hauley.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Vorwald
> >
> > Fife Major
> >
> > 22nd Regiment
> >
> > BAR Inspector of Music 1987 - 2004
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@>
> > To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:23 am
> > Subject: [18cMusic] Wanted: a little help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking for English Duty Camp/Duty calls for F&I era for the fife. I got
musicians calls and rev. and taptoo. What I am looking for is meal calls,
officer calls, fatigue calls, etc... The two 1740-50's manuals that I have don't
list them. All they list is several different versions of troop and doublings. I
am very new to this so if you can shed some light for me I'd appreciate this.
Are these online someplace? Is the new BAR book that came out that says it has
these calls appropriate for F&I era? Inquiring minds want to know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brad
> >
>

#5102 From: clichack@...
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: a little help
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Thanks.  Potter is certainly valuable for interpreting some of the 1780 drum notation. 
 
Erik


-----Original Message-----
From: drums1812@...
To: 18cmusic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: RE: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help

 
Agree with your interpretation Eric
In Potter's British manual from a slightly later period (1815/16/17 depending on various sources) he also lays out the Troop in a similar manner as the 1789 manuscript


R
Drum Major www.drums1812.org



 

To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
From: clichack@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:07:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help

 
Hi Brad,
 
Gary and I were actually talking about Singling and Doubling a couple of weeks ago at Crown Point.  In the c. 1780 Drum Beating MS (very similair to Longman and Broderip with some slight variations of drum beatings and extra material), it says for Troop:
 
Rising to be beat once over.
Singling to be beat as often over as you please.
Doubling Ditto.
Breaking off once over.
 
Longman and Broderip's version of this is more complicated.
 
In eighteenth century music, "double" could sometimes be seen meaning a varitation.  Maybe singling and doubling got their names from that?  The tattoo is also comprised of singling and doubling beatings.  In my opinion, singling and doubling don't have any distinct purpose besides comprising the troop, other than to provide musical interest.  For troop, it seems like a number of singling tunes could have been played while the drummers beat.  Then they could switch to the doubling tunes. 
 
Erik Lichack
Fife Major, BAR


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@aol.com>
To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:55 am
Subject: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help

 
Gary,

Thanks so much for your responce. I believe I have both the tutors you cited (Being at work, I believe I got the dates wrong). Being very new to this, can you explain to me what exactly does Singlings and Doublings mean? Alos, are there multiple versions of Roast Beef to be found in Fifeanddrum.org or will just about any version I find on there be appropriate? The BAR book is on my wish list, as soon as my income improves with the economy/markets.

Thanks again,

Brad

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, fifemajor22@... wrote:
>
>
> Dear Brad,
>
>
>
> The earliest source for English and Scottish Camp Duties is Rutherfoords Fife Tutor, which was published circa 1756.? Thompson & Son published the next Fife Tutor in 1759, and it is essentially a copy of Rutherfoord.
>
>
>
> Both of these tutors include the English Duty and the Scotch Duty tunes for the fife:
>
>
>
> Reveilly
>
> General
>
> Drummers Call
>
> Retreat
>
> Taptoo
>
>
>
> They both include various troops, doublings, singlings, etc.? It is unclear what singlings and doublings were used for other than being associated with the Troop.? The Troop's purpose was to assemble the men and inspect.? Troop or Assembly may have been another singling of the troop because most singlings are in 3/8 time; while doublings are in 2/4 time.
>
>
>
> The tune used for provisions was the Roast Beef, but this is not in these tutors.
>
>
>
> The new BAR book lists all of these camp duties, and they are appropriate for French and Indian
> War period.? The drum parts are from a circa 1780 source (Longman and Broderip) which is the earliest known source for the drum.
>
>
>
> Also, copies of the original fife tutors are available from Ray Hauley.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Gary Vorwald
>
> Fife Major
>
> 22nd Regiment
>
> BAR Inspector of Music 1987 - 2004
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:23 am
> Subject: [18cMusic] Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Looking for English Duty Camp/Duty calls for F&I era for the fife. I got musicians calls and rev. and taptoo. What I am looking for is meal calls, officer calls, fatigue calls, etc... The two 1740-50's manuals that I have don't list them. All they list is several different versions of troop and doublings. I am very new to this so if you can shed some light for me I'd appreciate this. Are these online someplace? Is the new BAR book that came out that says it has these calls appropriate for F&I era? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>



#5101 From: <drums1812@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:00 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Wanted: a little help
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Agree with your interpretation Eric
In Potter's British manual from a slightly later period (1815/16/17 depending on various sources) he also lays out the Troop in a similar manner as the 1789 manuscript


R
Drum Major www.drums1812.org



 

To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
From: clichack@...
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:07:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help

 
Hi Brad,
 
Gary and I were actually talking about Singling and Doubling a couple of weeks ago at Crown Point.  In the c. 1780 Drum Beating MS (very similair to Longman and Broderip with some slight variations of drum beatings and extra material), it says for Troop:
 
Rising to be beat once over.
Singling to be beat as often over as you please.
Doubling Ditto.
Breaking off once over.
 
Longman and Broderip's version of this is more complicated.
 
In eighteenth century music, "double" could sometimes be seen meaning a varitation.  Maybe singling and doubling got their names from that?  The tattoo is also comprised of singling and doubling beatings.  In my opinion, singling and doubling don't have any distinct purpose besides comprising the troop, other than to provide musical interest.  For troop, it seems like a number of singling tunes could have been played while the drummers beat.  Then they could switch to the doubling tunes. 
 
Erik Lichack
Fife Major, BAR


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@aol.com>
To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:55 am
Subject: [18cMusic] Re: Wanted: a little help

 
Gary,

Thanks so much for your responce. I believe I have both the tutors you cited (Being at work, I believe I got the dates wrong). Being very new to this, can you explain to me what exactly does Singlings and Doublings mean? Alos, are there multiple versions of Roast Beef to be found in Fifeanddrum.org or will just about any version I find on there be appropriate? The BAR book is on my wish list, as soon as my income improves with the economy/markets.

Thanks again,

Brad

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, fifemajor22@... wrote:
>
>
> Dear Brad,
>
>
>
> The earliest source for English and Scottish Camp Duties is Rutherfoords Fife Tutor, which was published circa 1756.? Thompson & Son published the next Fife Tutor in 1759, and it is essentially a copy of Rutherfoord.
>
>
>
> Both of these tutors include the English Duty and the Scotch Duty tunes for the fife:
>
>
>
> Reveilly
>
> General
>
> Drummers Call
>
> Retreat
>
> Taptoo
>
>
>
> They both include various troops, doublings, singlings, etc.? It is unclear what singlings and doublings were used for other than being associated with the Troop.? The Troop's purpose was to assemble the men and inspect.? Troop or Assembly may have been another singling of the troop because most singlings are in 3/8 time; while doublings are in 2/4 time.
>
>
>
> The tune used for provisions was the Roast Beef, but this is not in these tutors.
>
>
>
> The new BAR book lists all of these camp duties, and they are appropriate for French and Indian
> War period.? The drum parts are from a circa 1780 source (Longman and Broderip) which is the earliest known source for the drum.
>
>
>
> Also, copies of the original fife tutors are available from Ray Hauley.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Gary Vorwald
>
> Fife Major
>
> 22nd Regiment
>
> BAR Inspector of Music 1987 - 2004
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:23 am
> Subject: [18cMusic] Wanted: a little help
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Looking for English Duty Camp/Duty calls for F&I era for the fife. I got musicians calls and rev. and taptoo. What I am looking for is meal calls, officer calls, fatigue calls, etc... The two 1740-50's manuals that I have don't list them. All they list is several different versions of troop and doublings. I am very new to this so if you can shed some light for me I'd appreciate this. Are these online someplace? Is the new BAR book that came out that says it has these calls appropriate for F&I era? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>



#5100 From: clichack@...
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD
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Hi Brad,
 
I'll be in my 1st NY uniform - blue coat, scarlet facings and lace.  I won't be in the barracks. 
 
Erik Lichack


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: [18cMusic] Re: BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD

 
Erik,

What camp should I look for you in? Will you be set up in the barracks or in "Tent city"

Thanks,

Brad

--- In 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com, clichack@... wrote:
>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
>
>
> I will be at the Ft. Frederick event this weekend, as well as a few other musicians from the Brigade.
>
>
>
> Take care,
>
>
>
> Erik Lichack
>
> Fife Major, BAR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:56 am
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> Will any musicians be at the BAR event at Fort Frederick, MD later this month? I plan to go as a spectator as I don't do Rev War but I would like to meet anyone from this yahoo group that will be in attendance.
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#5099 From: clichack@...
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: a little help
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Hi Brad,
 
Gary and I were actually talking about Singling and Doubling a couple of weeks ago at Crown Point.  In the c. 1780 Drum Beating MS (very similair to Longman and Broderip with some slight variations of drum beatings and extra material), it says for Troop:
 
Rising to be beat once over.
Singling to be beat as often over as you please.
Doubling Ditto.
Breaking off once over.
 
Longman and Broderip's version of this is more complicated.
 
In eighteenth century music, "double" could sometimes be seen meaning a varitation.  Maybe singling and doubling got their names from that?  The tattoo is also comprised of singling and doubling beatings.  In my opinion, singling and doubling don't have any distinct purpose besides comprising the troop, other than to provide musical interest.  For troop, it seems like a number of singling tunes could have been played while the drummers beat.  Then they could switch to the doubling tunes. 
 
Erik Lichack
Fife Major, BAR


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Gary,

Thanks so much for your responce. I believe I have both the tutors you cited (Being at work, I believe I got the dates wrong). Being very new to this, can you explain to me what exactly does Singlings and Doublings mean? Alos, are there multiple versions of Roast Beef to be found in Fifeanddrum.org or will just about any version I find on there be appropriate? The BAR book is on my wish list, as soon as my income improves with the economy/markets.

Thanks again,

Brad

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> The earliest source for English and Scottish Camp Duties is Rutherfoords Fife Tutor, which was published circa 1756.? Thompson & Son published the next Fife Tutor in 1759, and it is essentially a copy of Rutherfoord.
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> They both include various troops, doublings, singlings, etc.? It is unclear what singlings and doublings were used for other than being associated with the Troop.? The Troop's purpose was to assemble the men and inspect.? Troop or Assembly may have been another singling of the troop because most singlings are in 3/8 time; while doublings are in 2/4 time.
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> War period.? The drum parts are from a circa 1780 source (Longman and Broderip) which is the earliest known source for the drum.
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> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
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> Looking for English Duty Camp/Duty calls for F&I era for the fife. I got musicians calls and rev. and taptoo. What I am looking for is meal calls, officer calls, fatigue calls, etc... The two 1740-50's manuals that I have don't list them. All they list is several different versions of troop and doublings. I am very new to this so if you can shed some light for me I'd appreciate this. Are these online someplace? Is the new BAR book that came out that says it has these calls appropriate for F&I era? Inquiring minds want to know.
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#5098 From: "Brad Ireland" <CprlJohnIvey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD
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Erik,

What camp should I look for you in?  Will you be set up in the barracks or in
"Tent city"

Thanks,

Brad

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> Erik Lichack
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> Fife Major, BAR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
> To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:56 am
> Subject: [18cMusic] BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD
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> Will any musicians be at the BAR event at Fort Frederick, MD later this month?
I plan to go as a spectator as I don't do Rev War but I would like to meet
anyone from this yahoo group that will be in attendance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
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#5097 From: clichack@...
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD
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Hi Brad,
 
I will be at the Ft. Frederick event this weekend, as well as a few other musicians from the Brigade.
 
Take care,
 
Erik Lichack
Fife Major, BAR


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Ireland <CprlJohnIvey@...>
To: 18cMusic@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:56 am
Subject: [18cMusic] BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD

 
Will any musicians be at the BAR event at Fort Frederick, MD later this month? I plan to go as a spectator as I don't do Rev War but I would like to meet anyone from this yahoo group that will be in attendance.

Thanks,

Brad


#5096 From: "Ross Flowers" <drums1812@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Scotch Repeat
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Does anyone know the origins of the Scotch Repeat?
Ross

#5095 From: "Brad Ireland" <CprlJohnIvey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: BAR Event at Fort Frederick, MD
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Will any musicians be at the BAR event at Fort Frederick, MD later this month? 
I plan to go as a spectator as I don't do Rev War but I would like to meet
anyone from this yahoo group that will be in attendance.

Thanks,

Brad

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